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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:32 am

this could have serious repercussions on a patients rights.

http://news.sky.com/story/1027101/cancer-boy-surgery-ruling-defies-mums-wishes

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Post  Durham on Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:01 pm

Thank god the courts over rules the mum (who has no medical training and the knowledge or a basic forumite)
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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:09 pm

Durham wrote:Thank god the courts over rules the mum (who has no medical training and the knowledge or a basic forumite)

I take it you are against freedom of choice.

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Post  Durham on Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:16 pm

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I take it you are against freedom of choice.

Freedom of choice comes after pro life wankstain
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Post  Flap Zappa on Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:16 pm

heartsandminds wrote:
Durham wrote:Thank god the courts over rules the mum (who has no medical training and the knowledge or a basic forumite)

I take it you are against freedom of choice.
what about the childs freedoms.
he is probably too young to make a choice but his mother should know better. She is of course within her rights to ask for a second opinion


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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:19 pm

Flap Meister wrote:what about the childs freedoms.
he is probably too young to make a choice but his mother should know better.

parents make decisions for their children every day, that is what parenting is all about..

on a broader canvas, how long before adults cannot refuse "treatment"..

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Post  Durham on Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:22 pm

heartsandminds wrote:

parents make decisions for their children every day, that is what parenting is all about..

on a broader canvas, how long before adults cannot refuse "treatment"..

Parents don't choose to kill their kids every day
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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:34 pm

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Parents don't choose to kill their kids every day

they make decisions based on their best knowledge to help their children, do you think this mother just decided she wants her child dead, I doubt it..

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Post  I'm the king on Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:04 pm

heartsandminds wrote:this could have serious repercussions on a patients rights.

http://news.sky.com/story/1027101/cancer-boy-surgery-ruling-defies-mums-wishes

The other title you could have used (but which would have been less interesting to you) is:

"Court supports fathers attempts to get the treatment his son needs"

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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:07 pm

I'm the king wrote:

The other title you could have used (but which would have been less interesting to you) is:

"Court supports fathers attempts to get the treatment his son needs"

I was trying to focus on the possible repercussions than this particular event to be honest, I wasn't deliberately trying to mislead just using it to make people think how easily seemingly "small" decisions can have major repercussions, that the loss of one persons rights can quickly spiral downhill.

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Post  I'm the king on Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:45 pm

heartsandminds wrote:

I was trying to focus on the possible repercussions than this particular event to be honest, I wasn't deliberately trying to mislead just using it to make people think how easily seemingly "small" decisions can have major repercussions, that the loss of one persons rights can quickly spiral downhill.

These things happen quite often when the parents of a child disagree, it isn't a new thing by any means. The decision of the patient has not been taken away as the child's decision is made by the parents and if they can't agree a court will decide. That in itself is a shame, but it is the only way.

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Post  Durham on Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:50 pm

heartsandminds wrote:

they make decisions based on their best knowledge to help their children, do you think this mother just decided she wants her child dead, I doubt it..

The mother doesn't have the necessary knowledge to decide what is best for the child's future - like you don't either

Shame on you both
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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:21 pm

Durham wrote:

The mother doesn't have the necessary knowledge to decide what is best for the child's future - like you don't either

Shame on you both

Again a parent makes decisions for their child, unless the nanny state wishes to be included in every decision of course.

the implications are much further reaching, will anyone be ordered to take treatment?

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Post  Durham on Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:29 pm

heartsandminds wrote:

Again a parent makes decisions for their child, unless the nanny state wishes to be included in every decision of course.

the implications are much further reaching, will anyone be ordered to take treatment?

Parent should make the BEST decision for their child - not a piss poor one
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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:30 pm

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Parent should make the BEST decision for their child - not a piss poor one

I'm sure in her opinion this is the best decision as I am sure she wouldn't make a decision that would kill her child..

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Post  Durham on Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:13 pm

heartsandminds wrote:

I'm sure in her opinion this is the best decision as I am sure she wouldn't make a decision that would kill her child..

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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:15 pm

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really, it took you nearly two hours to come up with that reply...genius at work eh...lol!

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Post  Durham on Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:23 pm

heartsandminds wrote:

really, it took you nearly two hours to come up with that reply...genius at work eh...lol!

No - ive been working wankstain.

Cheated on your missus lately, wankstain?
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Post  Hugh Jardon on Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:24 pm

heartsandminds wrote:

really, it took you nearly two hours to come up with that reply...genius at work eh...lol!

Perhaps he had other more worthwhile things to do?
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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:25 pm

Durham wrote:

No - ive been working wankstain.

Cheated on your missus lately, wankstain?

lol!..most articulate have you been listening in on the kids in the first school playground or perhaps you like being round kids for more than their quaint language....

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Post  Durham on Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:01 pm

heartsandminds wrote:

lol!..most articulate have you been listening in on the kids in the first school playground or perhaps you like being round kids for more than their quaint language....

oh dear - you here to start a ruck wankstain?

youver failed once on driving people to your site with keefy
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Post  I'm the king on Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:19 pm

heartsandminds wrote:

Again a parent makes decisions for their child, unless the nanny state wishes to be included in every decision of course.

the implications are much further reaching, will anyone be ordered to take treatment?

It's nothing of the sort, it is the courts deciding on an argument between 2 parents regarding their child, something that happens every single day

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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:27 pm

I'm the king wrote:

It's nothing of the sort, it is the courts deciding on an argument between 2 parents regarding their child, something that happens every single day

personal liberties are soon lost and seldom recovered.

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Post  Hugh Jardon on Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:59 pm

heartsandminds wrote:

personal liberties are soon lost and seldom recovered.

Liberties go out the window when the protection of the young, vulnerable or docile is concerned.

I suspect that the mummy in question is deluded at best, Or perhaps has MSBP.
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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:05 pm

Hugh Jardon wrote:

Liberties go out the window when the protection of the young, vulnerable or docile is concerned.

I suspect that the mummy in question is deluded at best, Or perhaps has MSBP.

is that from personal knowledge or just an assumption.

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