Prominent Scientists Sign Declaration that Animals have Conscious Awareness, Just Like Us

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Prominent Scientists Sign Declaration that Animals have Conscious Awareness, Just Like Us

Post  guest... on Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:19 pm

An international group of prominent scientists has signed The Cambridge Declaration of Consciousness in which they are proclaiming their support for the idea that animals are conscious and aware to the degree that humans are — a list of animals that includes all mammals, birds, and even the octopus.

will this make us stop treating these animals in totally inhumane ways?

While it might not sound like much for scientists to declare that many nonhuman animals possess conscious states, it’s the open acknowledgement that’s the big news here. The body of scientific evidence is increasingly showing that most animals are conscious in the same way that we are, and it’s no longer something we can ignore.



http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/dvorsky201208251


I doubt it will stop people wanting to eat meat, but maybe look better for the preservation of animals.

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Re: Prominent Scientists Sign Declaration that Animals have Conscious Awareness, Just Like Us

Post  nicko on Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:59 pm

so should we let them bleed to death?
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Post  guest... on Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:04 pm

@nicko wrote:so should we let them bleed to death?


Nicko, it is a contentious issue and I am all for allowing our natural widlife to be left in peace to flurish as otherwise so many more animals will become extinct . When it comes to farming animals I see this different, as they are produced to provide food, at the end of the day a quick painless death will always be the best option, but at what cost?

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Post  Flap Zappa on Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:06 pm

Didge wrote:An international group of prominent scientists has signed The Cambridge Declaration of Consciousness in which they are proclaiming their support for the idea that animals are conscious and aware to the degree that humans are — a list of animals that includes all mammals, birds, and even the octopus.

will this make us stop treating these animals in totally inhumane ways?

While it might not sound like much for scientists to declare that many nonhuman animals possess conscious states, it’s the open acknowledgement that’s the big news here. The body of scientific evidence is increasingly showing that most animals are conscious in the same way that we are, and it’s no longer something we can ignore.



http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/dvorsky201208251


I doubt it will stop people wanting to eat meat, but maybe look better for the preservation of animals.
more dumbing down of science by tree huggers me thinks.

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Post  tom sawyer on Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:24 pm

@nicko wrote:so should we let them bleed to death?

TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF

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Post  ALLAKAKA on Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:32 pm

@tom sawyer wrote:

TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF
Another example of the BLOODLUST OF ISLAM.




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Re: Prominent Scientists Sign Declaration that Animals have Conscious Awareness, Just Like Us

Post  Flap Zappa on Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:04 am

@ALLAKAKA wrote:
@tom sawyer wrote:

TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF
Another example of the BLOODLUST OF ISLAM.




explain how an animal that is stunned and bleeds to death is any different from an animal that isn't stunned and bleeds to death. Both animals are dead in the same amount of time.

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Post  ALLAKAKA on Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:41 am

Are you to thick to understand the difference between CONSCIOUS AWARENES and UNCONSCIOUS UNAWARENESS.


I'm sure that Muslims will put they're views to the test and have their surgical operations without anesthetic.
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Re: Prominent Scientists Sign Declaration that Animals have Conscious Awareness, Just Like Us

Post  nicko on Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:04 am

you seem to be a bit thick on this flap.if an animal is stunned before it's throat is cut it will feel no pain as it bleeds to death.if it's throat is cut then it's left to bleed to death it's fully conscious till it dies. it is hoisted up by the legs to help the blood to flow out.its quite obvious the animal is feeling pain as it writhes and kicks until it dies.an animal that is stunned correctly is perfectly still [except for nervious twitching] until it bleeds to death. I worked in a slaughter house for about 6 months and saw both methods used.
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Post  guest... on Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:43 am

@nicko wrote:you seem to be a bit thick on this flap.if an animal is stunned before it's throat is cut it will feel no pain as it bleeds to death.if it's throat is cut then it's left to bleed to death it's fully conscious till it dies. it is hoisted up by the legs to help the blood to flow out.its quite obvious the animal is feeling pain as it writhes and kicks until it dies.an animal that is stunned correctly is perfectly still [except for nervious twitching] until it bleeds to death. I worked in a slaughter house for about 6 months and saw both methods used.

Morning Nicko

It may not feel its throat being cut, but it will feel being electrocuted.

Anyway this is interesing:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14895534

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