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Post  Flap Zappa on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:10 pm

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steal what ever you like and write a receipt on a scrap of paper and no one can touch you.
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Post  fatbob5 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:22 pm

@mattiducatti wrote:Labour didn't bother with democratic process to implement their policies.


Cos they know best of course.

 can i ask you a question

Are you for real , do you honestly believe what you are writing ?
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Post  nicko on Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:40 pm

why don't you ask scrat,he's a not a believer.
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Post  fatbob5 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:51 pm

 Nigel Farage has the numbers '666' on his head




mattiducatti ---- please provide me with evidence that this is not the case
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Post  mattiducatti on Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:04 pm


The politically correct rubbish that became prevalent under labour became widespread and is well known about.

So was the open door immigration policy that was denied at the time but later admitted and that it was 'to rub the rights nose in it'!!!

These were implemented without parliamentary process or any bill being passed, like a lot of other stuff they did.


Spin it all you want fatbob, we all know the truth!

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Post  fatbob5 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:08 pm

@mattiducatti wrote:
The politically correct rubbish that became prevalent under labour became widespread and is well known about.

So was the open door immigration policy that was denied at the time but later admitted and that it was 'to rub the rights nose in it'!!!

These were implemented without parliamentary process or any bill being passed, like a lot of other stuff they did.


Spin it all you want fatbob, we all know the truth!


 you know 2 Things

The first ... is Jack

The Second .....
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Post  Flap Zappa on Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:10 pm

scrat wrote:
@gelico wrote:

dont be ridiculous

what would you do with regards to the fact that illegal travellers now have possession of your property

how do you feel about the actions of the police in this

nothing to do with voting labour you goof,,,,

Hi Geli,

I'm being perfectly honest, voting Labour equates to less crime, those are the facts.

I have some sympathy for the victim of this crime, nobody wants their property stolen but you see the tories create an us and them society and such a cause will lead to such an effect.

I do not steal, but some people do and its not a great psychological leap to witness the shit thats going on in our current non-society, as they witness the establishment, bankers and millionaires robbing us blind, they see polticians ripping the piss, they see the very fabric of society declining back into "nasty party" decay.

The police were confronted with a family home, and a note stating its purchase!

The dailyfuckwit hates any idea of an alternative lifestyle, its simply puerile nonsense!
by your logic, which incidentally is flawed, the coalition mean less crime as it is down since they came to power.

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Post  nicko on Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:45 pm

scat,would you have a gypsy caravan site in a field next to you?     don't come out with your usual waffle answer yes or no.
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Post  Flap Zappa on Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:15 pm

scrat wrote:So after the tories put on the robes of being "nasty" with their campaign to incite racial hatred, they've now decided to pick on another minority group to grandstand on their bile.

 
Joseph Jones, chairman of the Gypsy Council, accused the government of "reinforcing negative stereotypes" about travellers.

"It's creating tension, it's a negative thing to do," he told Sky News.

"Local authorities already know how to manage unauthorised encampments, they don't need the government to tell them how to do it.

"This latest statement Mr Pickles has put out doesn't have anything new in it. It doesn't have any new powers or anything like that.

"It just seems to me like a bit of grandstanding."

The chief executive of the Irish Travellers Movement, Yvonne MacNamara, told Radio 5Live the focus on enforcement "will not solve the problem" of illegal sites.
why is it no surprise that labour supporters side with the criminal over the victim

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Post  Flap Zappa on Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:19 pm

scrat wrote:
Flap Gallagher wrote:why is it no surprise that labour supporters side with the criminal over the victim
 "This latest statement Mr Pickles has put out doesn't have anything new in it. It doesn't have any new powers or anything like that.

"It just seems to me like a bit of grandstanding."
what has any statement by a government official got to do with this story of a person handling stolen goods and being allowed to keep them

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Post  Flap Zappa on Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:54 pm

scrat wrote:
Flap Gallagher wrote:what has any statement by a government official got to do with this story of a person handling stolen goods and being allowed to keep them
Its about travellers and a stolen caravan, you asserted that the traveller had stolen the caravan or had knowingly recieved stolen goods, because thats what the dailyfuckwit wants you to believe.

Minority bashing is the current "nasty party" raison d'etre, using the dailyfuckwit to smear these groups then chuck in the fatfuck pigman to squeal a little further on the matter.,,,,,

Joseph Jones, chairman of the Gypsy Council, likened Pickles's actions to the Home Office's clampdown on illegal immigrants in London using a van telling them to "go home", and the furore over the Ukip MEP Godfrey Bloom's "bongo bongo land" comments about foreign aid spending.

"It's creating tension. It's a negative thing to do," he told Sky News. "At the moment it seems like a theme. Recently we have had the 'go home' campaign, then we have the bongo bongo thing going on. It seems like open season on ethnic minorities."

Inciting racial hatred and creating tension!
I think you need to re read the thread. the traveller in question has handled stolen goods. I am not sure anyone has said he stole it. to buy a £30000 caravan in a pub for £300 would make most honest people question the legality of the sale.
If a person buys something that is stolen and the police track it down, the normal course of affairs is for the stolen property to be returned to the rightful owner and the person who bought it loses out.
If this sort of thing is allowed to stand then any thief can steal what he likes, scribble a bit of paper as a receipt in a pub and then keep the stolen property. why anyone, labour or otherwise would think this is a just thing to support is beyond me. It seems your hatred of all things not labour is blinding you to natural justice, or maybe you are just on the side of the criminal

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