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Post  fatbob5 on Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:45 am

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Post  Flap Zappa on Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:31 am

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they may well pay for it in other ways,

america gives $1/2billion dollars in aid to mexico

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Post  Major on Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:18 pm

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Post  fatbob5 on Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:33 pm

@Flap Zappa wrote:

they may well pay for it in other ways,

america gives $1/2billion dollars in aid to mexico
It will cost at leasr 10 billion
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Post  Flap Zappa on Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:35 pm

@fatbob5 wrote:
@Flap Zappa wrote:

they may well pay for it in other ways,

america gives $1/2billion dollars in aid to mexico
It will cost at leasr 10 billion
unlikely, but as I said america sends mexico $1/2 billion dollars a year.
do you have a source for your $10billion figure?


it doesnt have to be a bricks an mortar wall as 3 wire fences would do the trick if the middle fence carried 50000volts.

there is quite a bit of a wall already in place

https://uk.pinterest.com/stevegarufi/usa-mexico-border-fence/

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/9/5/walls-world-keep-foreigners-out.html

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Post  fatbob5 on Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:46 pm

@Flap Zappa wrote:
unlikely, but as I said america sends mexico $1/2 billion dollars a year.
do you have a source for your $10billion figure?


it doesnt have to be a bricks an mortar wall as 3 wire fences would do the trick if the middle fence carried 50000volts.

there is quite a bit of a wall already in place

https://uk.pinterest.com/stevegarufi/usa-mexico-border-fence/
.......There is no reliable price tag on building a border wall, but Trump has estimated the cost at $8 billion. Recent congressional legislation pegged the number at $10 billion,.....


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hill-republicans-embrace-building-of-border-wall-despite-cost/2017/01/06/06f29b18-d432-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?utm_term=.db37ef04e49b




Dean, as we both know these big grandiose projects always cost substantially more than the initial estimates
It wouldn't surprise me if it ended up costing 50 million 


Ps Trump has repeatedly stated that the barrier would be a wall - not a fence, and no offense (forgive me) but the idea of an electrified fence is even more ludicrous than Trumps Wall
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Post  fatbob5 on Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:05 am

Ps Dean do you think its quite ironic that you are defending Trumps Wall while having the bumper sticker wisdom ----
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Post  Flap Zappa on Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:33 am

@fatbob5 wrote:
@Flap Zappa wrote:
unlikely, but as I said america sends mexico $1/2 billion dollars a year.
do you have a source for your $10billion figure?


it doesnt have to be a bricks an mortar wall as 3 wire fences would do the trick if the middle fence carried 50000volts.

there is quite a bit of a wall already in place

https://uk.pinterest.com/stevegarufi/usa-mexico-border-fence/
.......There is no reliable price tag on building a border wall, but Trump has estimated the cost at $8 billion. Recent congressional legislation pegged the number at $10 billion,.....


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hill-republicans-embrace-building-of-border-wall-despite-cost/2017/01/06/06f29b18-d432-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?utm_term=.db37ef04e49b




Dean, as we both know these big grandiose projects always cost substantially more than the initial estimates
It wouldn't surprise me if it ended up costing 50 million 


Ps Trump has repeatedly stated that the barrier would be a wall - not a fence, and no offense (forgive me) but the idea of an electrified fence is even more ludicrous than Trumps Wall
well as the wall already covers over 650 miles there is only 2/3rds left to complete.
an electrified fence may well be a far cheaper option than a bricks and mortar wall.
Certainly they need to electrify the top of the current wall

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Post  Flap Zappa on Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:34 am

the wall was well underway until obama came to power.


but he has been encouraging illegals to enter the USA and vote democrat

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Post  fatbob5 on Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:39 am

@Flap Zappa wrote:the wall was well underway until obama came to power.


but he has been encouraging illegals to enter the USA and vote democrat
How do they vote if they are not citizens ?
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Post  fatbob5 on Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:43 am

@Flap Zappa wrote:
well as the wall already covers over 650 miles there is only 2/3rds left to complete.
an electrified fence may well be a far cheaper option than a bricks and mortar wall.
Certainly they need to electrify the top of the current wall
I would wager that the areas which already have fencing are the easiest areas in terms of environment and topography to build on
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Post  fatbob5 on Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:44 am

Incidentally - how many of the 9/11 hijackers arrived in America via Mexico ?
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Post  Flap Zappa on Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:03 am

@fatbob5 wrote:Incidentally - how many of the 9/11 hijackers arrived in America via Mexico ?
what has that got to do with illegal immigrants.

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Post  fatbob5 on Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:06 am

@Flap Zappa wrote:
what has that got to do with illegal immigrants.
So you concede that Trumps Wall has nothing to do with national security ?
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Post  Flap Zappa on Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:49 am

@fatbob5 wrote:
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what has that got to do with illegal immigrants.
So you concede that Trumps Wall has nothing to do with national security ?
no, I dont consider you question relevant, but I am glad you acknowledge wall would help with americas porous southern border.

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Post  fatbob5 on Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:40 am

@Flap Zappa wrote:
no, I dont consider you question relevant, but I am glad you acknowledge  wall would help with americas porous southern border.
I doubt it woukd have any real impact unless it also had a small army of people patrolling it
It would be an extremely expensive way of stopping Americans getting cheap Pool-Cleaners
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Post  Flap Zappa on Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:41 pm

@fatbob5 wrote:
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no, I dont consider you question relevant, but I am glad you acknowledge  wall would help with americas porous southern border.
I doubt it woukd have any real impact unless it also had a small army of people patrolling it
It would be an extremely expensive way of stopping Americans getting cheap Pool-Cleaners
you mean californians mainly.
if they dont want to pay the going rate then boo hoo.
however pool cleaners are not the predominant illegals.
it is also easier for terrorists to cross into the states from mexico

I dont know why people have a problem with a strong border and stopping people circumventing the LEGAL way to immigrate into america.
millions have gone through the legal process to gain citizenship and allowing illegals in and then giving them amnesty is a slap in the face to all those who do the right thing.

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Post  smelly-bandit on Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:07 pm

@fatbob5 wrote:
It will cost at leasr 10 billion
youre smoking crack sonny

10 billion to build a wall??? ROFL
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Post  Major on Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:12 pm

I have watched on TV the USA Border Control people patrolling the border on quad bikes, reading tracks where Mexicans have been, the heat there is unbearable at times.
They catch illegals, clandestines as some call them, send them back for them to return.
When caught some are in a helluva state, some have guns.

I spent 8 weeks hol in Vegas where they looked upon Mexicans as scum, much like pakiz here are viewed yet they were working in lots of places, cheap, on the 'lump' so I was told.

There was a protest by them because they were kept out of nightclubs  so it was agreed to give them a one night a week at there chosen club, hardly any turned up, reason given, could not afford it.

There are lots of businesses in Vegas on the edge of the desert, the heat is killing, I seen Mexicans and blacks walking around with advertising sandwich boards around their neck hardly able to stand.

Thankful inside most places there is air conditioning and fantastic misting spray units.

It is easy for us island people to keep pakiz out but we have failed to our peril, the Yankz have a far bigger problem.

Both sets of people are detested, they musta earned it.
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Post  fatbob5 on Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:03 pm

@smelly-bandit wrote:
youre smoking crack sonny

10 billion to build a wall??? ROFL
Its not any ole wall, its Trumps Wall
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Post  smelly-bandit on Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:33 pm

@fatbob5 wrote:
Its not any ole wall, its Trumps Wall

yeah but he is going to be using a Mexican immigrant workforce, nice and cheap like

obviously they will be building the wall from the southern side Thumbs up
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Post  Major on Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:19 pm

@smelly-bandit wrote:

yeah but he is going to be using a Mexican immigrant workforce, nice and cheap like

obviously they will be building the wall from the southern side


Thumbs up


Yeah, using dry sand and not much cement,

"I'll huff and puff and blow your wall down."
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Post  fatbob5 on Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:51 am

Well put Major

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Post  smelly-bandit on Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:14 am

@fatbob5 wrote:Well put Major

Grinning
is that because immigrants are generally less skilled than locals
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