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Post  Lord Edmund Moletrousers on Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:16 pm

In the most unlikely event than anyone has even noticed that I have been conspicuous by my virtual absence from forums for a while, I am involved in what I will at some time in the future claim to have been the mother of all battles with bureaucracy.

Chronologically, it is:

1964: The local parish council claims that a public footpath runs not only through our farmyard but also through the 100 year old stable block. The late lamented Lady M (I apologise to any Socialists here present, but she was the daughter of the Lord of the Manor and slightly to the Right of Ghengis Khan) responded in her usual gentile manner: "Piss off."

1965: We conceded defeat and paid shedloads of dosh to the local council to have said footpath diverted by 100 yards to cross a field on the estate.

2005: The County Council say that they wish to install a special gate on the said public footpath that will allow access for disabled people (and no doubt also ethnic minorities including Irish thieves (sorry, Travellers), the unemployed, single mums pregnant with their fifth "baybee" and any Romanians or Martians that happen to have evaded the immigration rules and have taken up residence in local garden sheds.)

Her Ladyship's response was that Irish Travellers, aka "fuckin' Didcoys", will have nicked the gate within 24 hours and that she wasn't going to be responsible for replacing it. End of County Council disabled access project...but as punishment we receive a notification that the 1965 "public footpath"was actually a four metre wide public bridleway and wasn't, er, actually diverted.

Oh, and could we please demolish part of the stable block so that little Priscilla on her birthday present pony can ride across our yard crapping at will (the pony and not Priscilla, one assumes). Her Ladyship's response: Fuck off.

2005: Wrote to County Council with evidence that their claim about a public bridleway was a load of bollocks. No response.

2006: Local horse riding club demand access in order to do some equine crapping. Her Ladyship's response: Fuck off.

2010: The District Council propose a compromise and we again spent shedloads of money on lawyer's and surveyor's fees proving that the bridleway could not possibly exist. For some obscure reason no-one in the council offices bothered to reply.

2015: I demand that the matter is resolved because I am now the legal owner of the property, Her Ladyship having passed away, and the supposed bridleway has completely blighted it so far as its value is concerned.

2016: The council finally acknowledge that because of "administrative errors" by the council (for which read "monumental cock-up") I am quite right, but that because little Priscilla's pony's rights are more important than my rights, I have to re-submit the entire case.

2017: I do so, and have at last managed to get everyone including the council to agree to my proposals for a compromise until...last week...a fucking horse rider from nowhere near where I live has lodged a formal objection and buggered up the whole process, putting everything back to square one.

I will no doubt see you all sometime in about 2020...assuming I manage to live that long.






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Post  Major on Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:29 pm

We are in a wrangle with council/planning/electric and water, they just love to feel important and throw common sense out of the window.

We have just got some sensible agreement by saying we intend to personally prosecute the head of planning, he was bricking it..

The water board want £16 grand to run a water pipe which we have done for the cost of materials, our own labour and our own machinery, 2 days work.

I know 2 people who became ill with these bas***** playing god almighty.
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Post  Flix on Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:02 pm

Sorry to hear you are having problems. WE are having a few problems with our council, not as bad as yours but a pain none the less including economically. We have a patch of ground at the top of our garden with a small building, which
admittedly is gently falling down, the area is fairly overgrown we keep it that way to encourage nature. There is a wall on three sides which is quite high and maintained and a fence which is inside the garden, so no one should have access but we have been told we have to repair the building or demolish it or at least take the roof off. There has been a lot of site visits, loud drawing in of breaths and tuts, we've sort of let them get on with it, but the area is now trampled, so no doubt anything living there have been disturbed, we've now been checked for bats, (which we knew we had) so now the council have gone away suddenly happy that the area is reasonably secure after all. As you can imagine its fairly difficult to get in the building even if you manage to get in the area itself, not that anyone should be trying.
A good few people in our end of the village are being reported for all sorts of stuff like for instance one house that put a porch on the back door about 30 years ago without planning permission, someone else habitually working on their car inside their own garage on a Sunday during certain hours which they shouldn't be according to some old law, doesn't affect anyone though, they are quite out of the way. Its getting quite interesting around here, especially as we know who it is., some of us have friends in high places, well not that high but useful.

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Post  gelico on Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:04 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:In the most unlikely event than anyone has even noticed that I have been conspicuous by my virtual absence from forums for a while, I am involved in what I will at some time in the future claim to have been the mother of all battles with bureaucracy.



2017: I do so, and have at last managed to get everyone including the council to agree to my proposals for a compromise until...last week...a fucking horse rider from nowhere near where I live has lodged a formal objection and buggered up the whole process, putting everything back to square one.

I will no doubt see you all sometime in about 2020...assuming I manage to live that long.



It says a lot that the council would even entertain some objection from 'nowhere near where you live'. wtf??

I hope you can keep your patience with their dumbfuckery and I wish you well with it.

I agree with major,,,,this sort of beaurocratic nonsense can makej people ill

good luck

ps,,you have been missed xx
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Post  Flix on Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:37 pm

Crazy isn't it, that they should take notice of someone from away, our lot is still hounding the bloke rebuilding a classic car even though the complainant has lied on three occassions, ringing the out of hours number (emergency only) to complain about noise and fumes from the garage when he and his family were in the next town  on two occassions and at one time 200 miles away and can prove it. They really should tell them to go away now they've been proven to be lying.

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Post  Flap Zappa on Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:13 am

is there no way to claim costs from the council when this is resolved in your favour.

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Post  Lord Edmund Moletrousers on Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:52 am

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It says a lot that the council would even entertain some objection from 'nowhere near where you live'.  wtf??

I hope you can keep your patience with their dumbfuckery and I wish you well with it.  

I agree with major,,,,this sort of beaurocratic nonsense can makej people ill

good luck

ps,,you have been missed xx

With rights-of-way matters, councils must legally publish any proposal that would result in an amendment to the County Definitive Map, which is the official record of any "highway" including footpaths and bridleways, and any member of the public has a right to object.

When I was working for for the NFU our Essex branch members were plagued for years by some bloke who lived in Perth and had never even visited the county but had the main county weekly paper delivered by mail just so that he could see any footpath or bridleway amendment proposal and lodge an objection. He wasn't required to give a reason but still managed to force local inquiries even in the cases where the landowners, ramblers, horse riders and local councils were all in favour because it would have improved the path. He was known to everyone, including the council, as "The Lone Objector."

The right of way through my yard was apparently an ancient farm track that was wrongly identified as being a public footpath, even though the stables had been built on it long before the war, and was then upgraded to a bridleway in the 50s for no apparent reason. There was never any statutory consultation with the landowners, according to my late wife's family farm records, and that was why we were able to eventually get a diversion order approved by the then local council and confirmed by the former Ministry of Housing.

The present council is now claiming that although the previous and now defunct council closed the ancient footpath when they created the new one, bridleway rights remained intact and that the two types of public right of way are different.

The lawyer and surveyor who dealt with the original diversion are long gone or I would have been tempted to sue them for professional negligence, and I have been dealing with the current problem myself for the past 12 years on and off. The last six months have been the worst because of the sheer amount of time and paperwork involved and I am desperately trying to get it sorted out so I don't eventually leave my daughter with the mess.





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