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Post  ALLAKAKA on Tue May 23, 2017 2:00 am

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Here's what we know:
:: Police have confirmed a number of fatalities after reports of an explosion at Manchester Arena
:: The arena was hosting an Ariana Grande concert and the "loud bangs" were heard just after the concert ended
:: The cause of the bangs has not yet been confirmed

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A spokesman for Ariana Grande has said the singer is "okay", adding: "We are further investigating what happened".

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Here's what we know:
:: Police have confirmed a number of fatalities after reports of an explosion at Manchester Arena
:: The arena was hosting an Ariana Grande concert and the "loud bangs" were heard just after the concert ended
:: The cause of the bangs has not yet been confirmed


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Greater Manchester Police have confirmed a number of confirmed fatalities.



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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  Raggamuffin on Thu May 25, 2017 8:46 am

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It gets worse. The manager of Manchester United has just said that if he could, he would exchange the 'Cup' they had just won, for the victims lives.

Oh dear - I'm sure it was meant well but really ...

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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  Costa on Thu May 25, 2017 9:16 am

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Obviously a football match can't help the people who have lost loved ones....nothing but time will ease their pain.
But Manchester in general is going through a very traumatic time now, I have lived here all my life and I have never experienced anything like this before, there is a real sadness in the atmosphere, it's hard to explain. 
Manchester and football have a strong connection, anything that can lift the mood of the general population would be welcome, maybe that's what was meant.

Do you really think a football match would lift the mood after the atrocity of what's happened Syl? I don't believe it would.

Even the die hard fans are saying on twitter they don't feel the same jubilation they normally would feel. That the win means nothing to them now.
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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  Flap Zappa on Thu May 25, 2017 10:06 am

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he was in libya recently and also said to have been to syria, so probably was trained in either of those places.
the father does not sound like a saint as he appears to have been a member of an AQ affiliate as well.

He probably claimed asylum under the precept that he was being persecuted in Libya for being a religious extremist
the father was a member of an AQ affiliate. Not really the sort we want to be giving asylum to

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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  Flap Zappa on Thu May 25, 2017 2:07 pm

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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  Costa on Thu May 25, 2017 2:42 pm

The bravery of these kids speaking of that awful night from their hospital beds.





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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  Costa on Thu May 25, 2017 2:46 pm

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That is exactly true of the Scottish.

I do it myself - we have no in between.
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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  ALLAKAKA on Thu May 25, 2017 6:01 pm

It is becoming very clear from the top-down there's a promotion of a hollow 'togetherness' in response to terrorism is about cultivating passivity. It is about suppressing strong public feeling, it's about reducing us to a line of mourners whose only job is to weep for our fellow citizens, not ask how they died or rage against their dying. The great fear of officialdom and the media class in the wake of terror attacks is that the volatile masses will turn wild and hateful. This is why every attack is followed by warnings of an Islamophobic backlash and heightened policing of social media and gatherings in public: because what they fundamentally fear is public passion-our passion. They want us passive empathetic, upset not angry, or questioning. They prefer us a lonely crowd of dutiful, disconnected mourners, rather then a real collective of citizens demanding to know why our fellow citizens died and how we can prevent others dying. We should stop playing the role they have alloyed us. 




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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  wyatt1 on Thu May 25, 2017 6:55 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:It is becoming very clear from the top-down there's a promotion of a hollow 'togetherness' in response to terrorism is about cultivating passivity. It is about suppressing strong public feeling, it's about reducing us to a line of mourners whose only job is to weep for our fellow citizens, not ask how they died or rage against their dying. The great fear of officialdom and the media class in the wake of terror attacks is that the volatile masses will turn wild and hateful. This is why every attack is followed by warnings of an Islamophobic backlash and heightened policing of social media and gatherings in public: because what they fundamentally fear is public passion-our passion. They want us passive empathetic, upset not angry, or questioning. They prefer us a lonely crowd of dutiful, disconnected mourners, rather then a real collective of citizens demanding to know why our fellow citizens died and how we can prevent others dying. We should stop playing the role they have alloyed us. 




 Comment taken from the Manchester Evening News. 
That's why they took our weapons away,  while they cower behind well ARMED security forces.  We are supposed to be 'head in the sand' cum by ya suicidal lemmings,  who are not allowed to defend ourselves  in case we offend our  'peace loving enrichers' .  Time to say 'bugger you and your PC crap'  give us our weapons back and put a bounty on the heads of the known islamic terrorists walking our streets.
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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  ALLAKAKA on Thu May 25, 2017 8:07 pm

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That's why they took our weapons away,  while they cower behind well ARMED security forces.  We are supposed to be 'head in the sand' cum by ya suicidal lemmings,  who are not allowed to defend ourselves  in case we offend our  'peace loving enrichers' .  Time to say 'bugger you and your PC crap'  give us our weapons back and put a bounty on the heads of the known islamic terrorists walking our streets.




 You don't need weapons when you have that pure unadulterated anger of the masses.



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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  Costa on Thu May 25, 2017 9:00 pm

Post copied from another forum ... I thought it was spot on myself.


''Events like we've seen in Manchester this week and across the world in the recent past - and even as I type, the Philippines are under Martial Law after an army of ISIS supporters is murdering it's way across a third of the country - just muddy the water and detract from the real issue we face, ISLAM is not a religion, it's an evil ideology.

To quote a phrase, 'the Prime Directive' of this filthy excuse to wantonly murder it's way across the planet, is to convert every one and every thing to it's way.

ALL Muslims want this, believe this and work towards this end, no matter how others describe them - there is no such thing as a 'moderate Muslim' just as there was no such thing as a moderate Nazi.

As I said in an earlier post, there are those who cannot wait and go down the 'natural progression' route, the outbreeding of all non believers, so carry out their atrocities across the world, we see these as the real threat, they aren't.

The real threat to our way of life is from those who our leaders label 'Moderate Muslims' the vast majority of those who inhabit every country on Earth, in their tens of millions.

They may abhor the way some of their members are going about the business of bringing about an Islamic world but they will rejoice along with them when it happens.

Well call me picky but I don't want either myself or my family and most importantly, those I love who come after me, to be enslaved by a primitive, evil and barbaric ideology, whether it is brought about by violence or creeping, comfy, insidious means.

Islam is not a religion and therefore should be outlawed in the free world, it's stated ends are to bring about the enslavement of the world.

Why can't people see and understand this?''
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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  nicko on Fri May 26, 2017 12:16 am

Well said Costa,  my feelings exactly.
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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  Flap Zappa on Fri May 26, 2017 12:26 am

what ever happened to the british stiff upper lip. Watching the endless vigils today all I see are a bunch of pussy's frightened of their own shadows.
I certainly understand the family and friends of the victims breaking down and being unable to cope, but the rest of the population did not know these people and instead of being right on should be truly outraged and demanding retribution on the perpetrators and their followers.
I don't think all muslims are terrorists or terrorist supporters, I am the only brit for miles here and the muslims I live amongst are by and large decent honest people, apart from the PKK cunts who set a bomb off just up the road and the kurdish bastards who stole my step daughters bike, TWICE.
However there are a sizeable number of muslims who if not giving direct support to the terrorists certainly share quite a lot of their objectives and we should not be allowing people like that to take advantage of our good natures.

An analogy would be allowing huge numbers of german nazi's to have free reign here during WW2. It just would not have happened, the only ones we had to worry about were the parachutists dressed as nuns, and when caught they would be shot.

Britain, europe and the free world is heading for extinction if they dont understand that this is a war, a religious war,and will ultimately be a war to the death. The phillipines is headed the way of syria now if the rest of us do not do something now, rather than wait until hell has taken over.
so it is time for the government to take the bull by the horns and let the death cult and all its followers know that they are not welcome in the UK and will be deported or interned en masse until the war is over. It is the only way to deal with those people and the only thing they understand. they take compassion, tolerance and turning the other cheek as a sign of weakness. If they want a country run by sharia law then there are several around the world that do that and they are welcome to go there. Britian isn't and must never be a country as backward as that.

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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  Costa on Fri May 26, 2017 12:47 am

I think was has happened Dean, is that we have become too indoctrinated ourselves into believing we will be classed as racists, to be too outraged and to demand retribution.

That has to change.
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Post  Flap Zappa on Fri May 26, 2017 1:10 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I think was has happened Dean, is that we have become too indoctrinated ourselves into believing we will be classed as racists, to be too outraged and to demand retribution.

That has to change.
certainly people have been indoctrinated over the last 40 years. I was taught by and large by teachers who had fought in the war in one capacity or another, only towards the end of my school days did we get totally useless wet behind the ears student teachers who were left wing apparatchiks who did not have a clue. I imagine they are the ones that have had a big hand in turning brits into wimps.

People need to wake up and decide if they want to be free or oppressed and bowing down 5 times a day

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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  fatbob5 on Fri May 26, 2017 3:24 am

Big security barriers have set up around Cardiff Bay, the sort that would stop a tank. You know me i do like taking photos - but not in this case - dont want to end up in a cell
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Post  fatbob5 on Fri May 26, 2017 3:47 am

Heres the weird one

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At 'A' metal barrier's, at 'B' a big metal bridge which in my mind can only serve two purposs either to slow down a speeding truck or to deflect a massive blast
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Post  fatbob5 on Fri May 26, 2017 3:51 am

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certainly people have been indoctrinated over the last 40 years. I was taught by and large by teachers who had fought in the war in one capacity or another, only towards the end of my school days did we get totally useless wet behind the ears student teachers who were left wing apparatchiks who did not have a clue. I imagine they are the ones that have had a big hand in turning brits into wimps.

People need to wake up and decide if they want to be free or oppressed and bowing down 5 times a day
Once an individual has decided that they want to be free, rather than bowing down five times a day to a supreme entity that doesnt exist, what should be their next course of action ?
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Post  Flap Zappa on Fri May 26, 2017 10:36 am

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certainly people have been indoctrinated over the last 40 years. I was taught by and large by teachers who had fought in the war in one capacity or another, only towards the end of my school days did we get totally useless wet behind the ears student teachers who were left wing apparatchiks who did not have a clue. I imagine they are the ones that have had a big hand in turning brits into wimps.

People need to wake up and decide if they want to be free or oppressed and bowing down 5 times a day
Once an individual has decided that they want to be free, rather than bowing down five times a day to a supreme entity that doesnt exist, what should be their next course of action ?
to ensure the government of the day does not facilitate those that would enslave us.

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Post  smelly-bandit on Fri May 26, 2017 10:46 am

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Once an individual has decided that they want to be free, rather than bowing down five times a day to a supreme entity that doesnt exist, what should be their next course of action ?

a pint and the first experience of fun???
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Post  Costa on Fri May 26, 2017 11:14 am

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Thanks Nicko  Smile   but they're not my words ... I copied them over from another forum.
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Post  nicko on Fri May 26, 2017 11:28 am

Well, they could be my words, and the words of every other right thinking person !
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Post  Costa on Fri May 26, 2017 11:29 am

I love this poem about Manchester, by poet Tony Walsh who recited it at the vigil.

Full of passion I love you Stirs the blood

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Post  Flix on Fri May 26, 2017 12:32 pm

Absolutely right Nico = could be my words as well. This has been said for a good few years by people who haven't been hoodwinked into submission. Looks like the majority will be holding hands and singing kumbaya while becoming second class citizens in their own country, which ever one that may be.
There was a man on Question Time last night who brought out a leaflet given to him on an open Sunday at Didsbury Mosque, I can't remember the exact words but there was a phrase decrying the western way of life, a woman who attends that mosque denied that it was given out at the mosque and that it was a moderate place inviting anyone to visit etc. David what's his name dismissed it as not knowing if it was genuine or not, the man was astounded and held up the leaflet asking what more do you want.

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Post  ALLAKAKA on Fri May 26, 2017 2:06 pm

 A woman phoned in on LBC about a !0 yearold pupil at her childrens school who was shouting that the  Manchester victims all DESERVERED to die ( no points for guessing he was a Muslim ) apparently he was led away by teachers.
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Re: LIVE: Fatalities after Manchester 'explosion'

Post  nicko on Fri May 26, 2017 3:28 pm

Brainwashed by his Parents/
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