Trump whinging about NFL 'Kneeling Protest'

fatbob5 wrote:LeBron James called him a "bum," J.K. Rowling cited "privilege" and Stevie Wonder knelt in solidarity at his Saturday concert — Donald Trump's latest feud attacking some of America's best athletes is spilling over into a much wider and deeper confrontation.......


http://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/reaction-athlete-feud-trump-1.4304799

fatbob5 wrote:'Freedom of Speech' and 'Freedom of Expression' are completely hollow ideas if you dont respect the rights of people with whom you fundamentally disagree

Flap Zappa wrote:Nascar owners have said they will fire drivers who kneel for the national anthem

Flap Zappa wrote:
virtue signalling celebs.
standing for the anthem is about showing respect. those overpaid multi millionaires would know nothing about that.
If americans had any sense they would boycot the sponsors of all the player who refuse to stand.Kaepernick is unemployable because of his protest others may well follow. if they cant play sissy rugby there is not much else many of them could do.

Flap Zappa wrote:
players are fined if they make a doing and dance when scoring by the NFL as it is not allowed to showboat. "Shaboopi"
this is little different.
It is disrespect for the flag and playing politics.

Flap Zappa wrote:https://twitter.com/DBloom451/status/912614798579294208

nicko wrote:Bob, I respect your opinion but the statistics prove that Blacks,  in the US, and the UK   percentage wise, are more likely to use guns if they have them. The same applies to the carrying of Knives.

fatbob5 wrote:

Flap Zappa wrote:
players are fined if they make a doing and dance when scoring by the NFL as it is not allowed to showboat. "Shaboopi"
this is little different.
It is disrespect for the flag and playing politics.

You use the term 'playing politics' -- its hardly a controversial position they are supporting - or at keast it shouldn't be
They just dont think that Police Officers should be allowed to shoot dead black men when they are not under any threat

Major wrote:I have mixed sentiments about respect.

I believe they should have respected the USA Flag.

BUT, I ain't much for respecting OUR monarchy, yet I will salute OUR Flag.

fatbob5 wrote:

nicko wrote:Bob, I respect your opinion but the statistics prove that Blacks,  in the US, and the UK   percentage wise, are more likely to use guns if they have them. The same applies to the carrying of Knives.

Its perfectly possible to fundamentally disagree with the beliefs of those protesting, but totally back their right to protest. Theres no contradiction there at all

Ps I do believe that sometimes the police have to use lethal force - so its likely that I wouldn't be very welcome at your average BLM march

Flap Zappa wrote:
the number of black people killed by the police pales into insignificance compared to the number who are killed in say chicago or detroit by black men in a  single year.
chicago manages over 700murders a year, mostly black on black