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Post  fatbob5 on Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:13 pm

“It was kind of unbelievable that it was real data,” said Yale University astronomer Tabetha Boyajian. “We were scratching our heads. For any idea that came up there was always something that would argue against it.”

She was talking to the New Scientist about KIC 8462852, a distant star with a very unusual flickering habit. Something was making the star dim drastically every few years, and she wasn’t sure what..............

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/10/15/the-strange-star-that-has-serious-scientists-talking-about-an-alien-megastructure/?utm_term=.d829f07c5e75
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Post  Flap Zappa on Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:20 pm

@fatbob5 wrote:“It was kind of unbelievable that it was real data,” said Yale University astronomer Tabetha Boyajian. “We were scratching our heads. For any idea that came up there was always something that would argue against it.”

She was talking to the New Scientist about KIC 8462852, a distant star with a very unusual flickering habit. Something was making the star dim drastically every few years, and she wasn’t sure what..............

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/10/15/the-strange-star-that-has-serious-scientists-talking-about-an-alien-megastructure/?utm_term=.d829f07c5e75
I thought this was cleared up some months back. It is not a dyson sphere or ringworld

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Post  fatbob5 on Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:29 pm

@Flap Zappa wrote:
I thought this was cleared up some months back. It is not a dyson sphere or ringworld
I didnt check the date of the article
Dean, You might want to relocate this thread to - Non mainstream news, Old News, Blogs, Propaganda, and Conjecture
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Post  Flap Zappa on Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:36 pm

if you want to read some good scifi about dyson spheres read the ringworld series by Larry Niven.
Jolly good yarn.

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Post  Flap Zappa on Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:49 pm

@fatbob5 wrote:“It was kind of unbelievable that it was real data,” said Yale University astronomer Tabetha Boyajian. “We were scratching our heads. For any idea that came up there was always something that would argue against it.”

She was talking to the New Scientist about KIC 8462852, a distant star with a very unusual flickering habit. Something was making the star dim drastically every few years, and she wasn’t sure what..............

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/10/15/the-strange-star-that-has-serious-scientists-talking-about-an-alien-megastructure/?utm_term=.d829f07c5e75
there's probably not enough matter in most solar systems to actually build a dyson sphere, certainly not one that would be habitable. Even a ring would take up more matter than available even if you demolished the planets to build it.

for an earth like star it would need a diameter of around 180million miles. make it 100 miles wide and you have a humongous area 56,541,600,000 square miles. It would need to be a reasonable thickness for structural integrity and that is an awful lot of metals you need to refine. It would need internal walls 100 miles high to retain an atmosphere. How do you get the atmosphere in place. Thats a lot of volume.



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Post  fatbob5 on Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:54 pm

@Flap Zappa wrote:if you want to read some good scifi about dyson spheres read the ringworld series by Larry Niven.
Jolly good yarn.
Amazon commissions three new sci-fi shows: [size=34]Lazarus, Snow Crash,[/size] and Ringworld

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/snow-crash-lazarus-and-ringworld-shows-are-coming-to-amazon-prime/
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Post  Flap Zappa on Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:53 am

@fatbob5 wrote:
@Flap Zappa wrote:if you want to read some good scifi about dyson spheres read the ringworld series by Larry Niven.
Jolly good yarn.
Amazon commissions three new sci-fi shows: [size=34]Lazarus, Snow Crash,[/size] and Ringworld

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/snow-crash-lazarus-and-ringworld-shows-are-coming-to-amazon-prime/
brilliant, I did not know that. I hope they dont make a pigs ear out of it like the people who did the shannarra chronicles.
It will be interesting to see a puppeteer in the flesh.


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Post  fatbob5 on Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:00 am

Whats your opinion on aliens - Dean ?
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Post  Flap Zappa on Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:53 am

@fatbob5 wrote:Whats your opinion on aliens - Dean ?
you would need to be very conceited to think they dont exist in some form or another in the universe somewhere.
do I believe in aliens coming here in flying saucers. No I dont.
If aliens come they would be coming to stay. Interstellar distances are too great for a fleeting visit. the light barrier seems to be the problem there.
even if you approach light speed by somehow having constant acceleration it would still take decades to get to the nearest stars. I am not sure we have managed anything faster than 100000 miles an hour, if that yet.
there may be space faring peoples, but I think that would be local system, not interstellar.

I'm not sure I would like to be proved wrong about aliens in spaceships arriving as it would probably mean the same end for us as it did for the aztecs.
the alien invasion movies are probably more accurate than say ET.

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Post  nicko on Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:39 pm

There are Aliens among us,    look at the leaders of the Labour party !
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Post  Flix on Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:30 pm

-----and some of the EU unelected officers, very strange looking people, somehow don't quite look human.

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Post  Major on Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:04 pm

There are aliens on most forums, look at Electric and NF.
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Post  fatbob5 on Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:50 pm

@Flap Zappa wrote:
you would need to be very conceited to think they dont exist in some form or another in the universe somewhere.
do I believe in aliens coming here in flying saucers. No I dont.
If aliens come they would be coming to stay. Interstellar distances are too great for a fleeting visit. the light barrier seems to be the problem there.
even if you approach light speed by somehow having constant acceleration it would still take decades to get to the nearest stars. I am not sure we have managed anything faster than 100000 miles an hour, if that yet.
there may be space faring peoples, but I think that would be local system, not interstellar.

I'm not sure I would like to be proved wrong about aliens in spaceships arriving as it would probably mean the same end for us as it did for the aztecs.
the alien invasion movies are probably more accurate than say ET.
I agree with most of that, not only are the galaxies massive distances apart - but thise distances are increasing as the Universe expands
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Post  fatbob5 on Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:55 pm

Mind you if an alien race has developed the technology to fly the galaxy - then what would they have to gain by destroying the human population?
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Post  fatbob5 on Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:01 pm

@nicko wrote:There are Aliens among us,    look at the leaders of the Labour party !




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Post  fatbob5 on Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:54 pm

Ps - a Dyson Sphere is essentially an extremely large solar panel, an alien race with super - advanced technology would probably have far more effective and efficient ways of generating energy
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