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Grenfell Tower inquiry: Faulty wiring in fridge-freezer started fire, says expert

Post  fatbob5 on Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:13 pm

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Not a word of explanation in the article on how the fridge fire inside the flat ignited the cladding on the outside of the building
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Post  Flix on Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:14 pm

That's what I'd like to know. It takes a while for the heat to build up enough to break a window and for flames to get out that way. Could it have gone into the wall cavity if there is one and broken out through there?
When we had a small fire in our office it was found quickly and the fire people took the window sill out and checked the cavity for flames or heat.

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Post  Flap Zappa on Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:38 pm

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Not a word of explanation in the article on how the fridge fire inside the flat ignited the cladding on the outside of the building
the windows must have been opened for the fire to get outside.

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Post  nicko on Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:09 am

Did they ever find the Man who did a runner from the flat where the fire started ?
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Post  nicko on Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:09 am

Did they ever find the Man who did a runner from the flat where the fire started ?
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Post  Flix on Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:47 am

I heard he had packed his bags and had them outside when he went knocking doors to warn his neighbours, then that he didn't have his stuff outside but did warn his neighbours
How did the fire appear to have been put out and the fire service 'mop up' so to speak and leave, only to be told by a second crew who remained outside, that the outside of the building was on fire now.

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Post  smelly-bandit on Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:07 pm

Who cares the whole thing is behind us,
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Post  nicko on Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:34 pm

They are still finding the cheating scum,  total claimed by the "chances"  £650'000 ! Who's responsible for this fuck up ?
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Post  fatbob5 on Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:17 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I heard he had packed his bags and had them outside when he went knocking doors to warn his neighbours, then that he didn't have his stuff outside but did warn his neighbours
How did the fire appear to have been put out and the fire service 'mop up' so to speak and leave, only to be told by a second crew who remained outside, that the outside of the building was on fire now.
I dont get it
If it was just a small fire how did it ignite the cladding outside
If was larger , passed through a window and ignited the cladding, why didnt the fire fighters notice it
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Post  smelly-bandit on Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:25 am

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I dont get it
If it was just a small fire how did it ignite the cladding outside
If was larger , passed through a window and ignited the cladding, why didnt the fire fighters notice it
Because apparently there is a gap between the cladding and the building which acted like a chimney breast, so the fire was burning in the gap and climbing the outside of the tower.
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Post  Flap Zappa on Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:08 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:They are still finding the cheating scum,  total claimed by the "chances"  £650'000 ! Who's responsible for this fuck up ?
so far there has been more than 1 conviction for every 10 flats

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Post  fatbob5 on Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:46 pm

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Because apparently there is a gap between the cladding and the building which acted like a chimney breast, so the fire was burning in the gap and climbing the outside of the tower.
So it was mainly due to a design flaw rather than just the material itself
I bet whoever rubber stamped that still has a job
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Post  Flap Zappa on Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:25 am

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Because apparently there is a gap between the cladding and the building which acted like a chimney breast, so the fire was burning in the gap and climbing the outside of the tower.
So it was mainly due to a design flaw rather than just the material itself
I bet whoever rubber stamped that still has a job
you mean the mp for kensington?

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Post  smelly-bandit on Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:32 am

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So it was mainly due to a design flaw rather than just the material itself
I bet whoever rubber stamped that still has a job

I'm not a fire chief so I can't say but that's what the initial reports said about how the fire spread so quickly, the chimney effect fanned the flames and let them climb. 

I don't think it's a case of rubber stamping bob, have you ever hired workmen to do some work??? If they say XYZ is the best way to do the work, you're not going to argue with them otherwise you'd just do the job yourself.

The person who rubber stamped the job wasn't up on the scaffolding putting the cladding up was he?? 

Why the hell do you lefties always want heads to roll, why can't it ever just be a tragic accident with you lunatics, why does there always have to be some kind of malicious tory plot to murder the peasants behind everything??
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Post  fatbob5 on Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:05 am

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I'm not a fire chief so I can't say but that's what the initial reports said about how the fire spread so quickly, the chimney effect fanned the flames and let them climb. 

I don't think it's a case of rubber stamping bob, have you ever hired workmen to do some work??? If they say XYZ is the best way to do the work, you're not going to argue with them otherwise you'd just do the job yourself.

The person who rubber stamped the job wasn't up on the scaffolding putting the cladding up was he?? 

Why the hell do you lefties always want heads to roll, why can't it ever just be a tragic accident with you lunatics, why does there always have to be some kind of malicious tory plot to murder the peasants behind everything??
Im not saying the person who rubber stamped it was malicious, more incompetent
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Post  smelly-bandit on Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:28 am

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Im not saying the person who rubber stamped it was malicious, more incompetent
Fuck me if incompetence was any cause to fire a person, half the politicians would be put of a job
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