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Post  fatbob5 on Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:38 pm

President Donald Trump has condemned hatred and white supremacy in a public address following mass shootings that left 31 dead in Texas and Ohio.


He called for mental health gun control reforms, the death penalty for those who commit mass murder and more bi-partisan co-operation over gun laws. .........


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Post  Flap Zappa on Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:17 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:President Donald Trump has condemned hatred and white supremacy in a public address following mass shootings that left 31 dead in Texas and Ohio.


He called for mental health gun control reforms, the death penalty for those who commit mass murder and more bi-partisan co-operation over gun laws. .........


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So the El Paso shooter was a white supremacist.

The Dayton shooter was a Leftist.

The ICE bomber quoted AOC.

The Congressional baseball game shooter was a Bernie bro.

But according to the media, all the violence is Trump’s fault. Disgusting dishonesty.

I can see why the dayton shooting has been all but forgotten by the media now

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Post  Flap Zappa on Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:18 am

Also att eh weekend, there was a Mass Shooting in Chicago, injuring 7 people. Drive by shooting at Douglas Park, but it’s funny how we don’t hear about that shooting. In a Democratic state and the shooter was a Democrat. Just saying!

And Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in America.

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Post  Flap Zappa on Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:26 am

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this has been doing the rounds although I am not sure the right hand picture is the dayton shooter. the first 2 do have a passing resemblance

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Post  Flap Zappa on Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:33 am

other tit bits gleaned form twitter

El Paso shooter is a registered Democrat and wanted socialist programs. Dayton guy was a satanist supporter of Warren. Since the left is so quick to blame the right, thought I’d remind you of those little tidbits.



Walmart Shooter Manifesto as linked on Drudge: He hates Republicans & Democrats. He wants universal healthcare & guaranteed government income. He thinks socialism can't work if we have open borders & anyone can come here. He is an environmentalist who hates corporations

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the most mass shootings happened under obama

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Post  nicko on Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:27 am

need to post that on N/F dean ?
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Post  fatbob5 on Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:01 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:other tit bits gleaned form twitter

El Paso shooter is a registered Democrat and wanted socialist programs.  Dayton guy was a satanist supporter of Warren.  Since the left is so quick to blame the right, thought I’d remind you of those little tidbits.



Walmart Shooter Manifesto as linked on Drudge: He hates Republicans & Democrats. He wants universal healthcare & guaranteed government income. He thinks socialism can't work if we have open borders & anyone can come here. He is an environmentalist who hates corporations

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the most mass shootings happened under obama
How is Obama responsible for the shootings that happened while he was POTUS?
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Post  nicko on Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:58 pm

How is Trump responsible now he is POTUS ?     Answers on a postage stamp please !
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Post  Flap Zappa on Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:16 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:other tit bits gleaned form twitter

El Paso shooter is a registered Democrat and wanted socialist programs.  Dayton guy was a satanist supporter of Warren.  Since the left is so quick to blame the right, thought I’d remind you of those little tidbits.



Walmart Shooter Manifesto as linked on Drudge: He hates Republicans & Democrats. He wants universal healthcare & guaranteed government income. He thinks socialism can't work if we have open borders & anyone can come here. He is an environmentalist who hates corporations

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the most mass shootings happened under obama
How is Obama responsible for the shootings that happened while he was POTUS?
but people are claiming trump is responsible. But I am glad you see the idiocy of that accusation

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Post  fatbob5 on Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:09 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:How is Trump responsible now he is POTUS ?     Answers on a postage stamp please !
Some people would argue thst its his rhetoric of 'Blaming the Other' for Americas woes
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Post  fatbob5 on Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:23 pm

In my opinion here the main issue which is causing these mass murders is - High-Capacity Magazines

You dont need a firearm with a HCM for home defense
You dont need a firearm with a HCM for hunting animals
You do need a firearm with a HCM if you want to kill 50 people in a shopping centre
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Post  nicko on Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:52 pm

You can have a 5 shot mag in the rifle and several others in your pocket, I can drop an empty mag and push another home in 3 or 4 seconds !
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Post  smelly-bandit on Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:54 pm

trumps been condmening white supremacy for the last 20 years

but never let truth stand in the way of a good lie
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Post  smelly-bandit on Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:29 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:In my opinion here the main issue which is causing these mass murders is - High-Capacity Magazines

You dont need a firearm with a HCM for home defense
You dont need a firearm with a HCM for hunting animals
You do need a firearm with a HCM if you want to kill 50 people in a shopping centre

your opinion doesnt count because you arent informed enough about weapons and ancils to make an educated comment on the issue.

youre probably one of these idiots who thinks you can buy full auto rifles over the counter or thinks that the "AR" in AR15 stands for "assault rifle"

steven crowder does a test where he sets up a stand and asks people walking by questions about rifles and ammo, half the morons want to ban the "tactical" looking rifles but the identical rifle rehoused a wooden shroud they are ok with, while saying the want to ban .308 rounds because they are "too big" but are happy with the rifle that fires it but are happy with the 5.56 round but want to ban AR's

these are the kinds of idiots are who screeching for guns to be banned because they look "scary"

its an argument for emotional gun control
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Post  smelly-bandit on Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:31 pm

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Some people would argue thst its his rhetoric of 'Blaming the Other' for Americas woes

when has trump ever blamed anyone apart from the democrats for americas woes???

this is cause and effect, you open the flood gates you get a retaliation, happens everytime in every instance.
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Post  smelly-bandit on Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:33 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:need to post that on N/F dean ?
lol!

what difference will that make???
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Post  smelly-bandit on Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:38 pm




you will not like this one bob
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Post  fatbob5 on Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:29 am

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your opinion doesnt count because you arent informed enough about weapons and ancils to make an educated comment on the issue.

youre probably one of these idiots who thinks you can buy full auto rifles over the counter or thinks that the "AR" in AR15 stands for "assault rifle"

steven crowder does a test where he sets up a stand and asks people walking by questions about rifles and ammo, half the morons want to ban the "tactical" looking rifles but the identical rifle rehoused a wooden shroud they are ok with, while saying the want to ban .308 rounds because they are "too big" but are happy with the rifle that fires it but are happy with the 5.56 round but want to ban AR's

these are the kinds of idiots are who screeching for guns to be banned because they look "scary"

its an argument for emotional gun control
Im not an expert in Marine Zoology but I do know that its probably not a good idea to go swimming with Sharks

Likewise just because im not an expert on firearms doesn't mean that I cant cant have a valid, coherent and cogent opinion in relation to whats increasing the carnage in America.
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Post  fatbob5 on Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:35 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:You can have a 5 shot mag in the rifle and several others in your pocket, I can drop an empty mag and push another home in 3 or 4 seconds !
3 to 4 seconds for a trained professional on a firing range

For a non-professional demented maniac , in the 'Heat of Battle' (for want of a more suitable phrase), it would probably take a lot longer
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Post  smelly-bandit on Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:46 am

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Im not an expert in Marine Zoology but I do know that its probably not a good idea to go swimming with Sharks

Likewise just because im not an expert on firearms doesn't mean that I cant cant have a valid, coherent and cogent opinion in relation to whats increasing the carnage in America.


but a lot of people DO go swimming with sharks and say its not a problem.

in fact people who are well versed in all things shark are the ones who are alwasy saying that sharks have a bad reputation because people dont understand them.

thats the thing bob if you arent an expert on fireamrs you really can only have an EMOTIONAL opinion based on an EMOTIONAL response to the shootings.

sorry bob but here comes the nuke, this video destorys your mag size opinion

you will not like this,but watch it id like to hear what you have to say about it

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Post  smelly-bandit on Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:51 am

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3 to 4 seconds for a trained professional on a firing range

For a non-professional demented maniac , in the 'Heat of Battle' (for want of a more suitable phrase), it would probably take a lot longer
 
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Post  fatbob5 on Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:43 pm

Smells, the clip totally misses the point
It might well be quick and easy to change a Magazine when on a firing range when you have "fresh' magazines on a barrell in front of you but its a totally different situation for someone moving with the magazines in a rucksack or pocket
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Post  smelly-bandit on Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:31 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Smells, the clip totally misses the point
It might well be quick and easy to change a Magazine when on a firing range when you have "fresh' magazines on a barrell in front of you but its a totally different situation for someone moving with the magazines in a rucksack or pocket

no bob the clip totally destroys your point, because your point was essentially that high cap mags made it easy to commit mass murder, the clips shows that no matter the size of the mag the time taken to get the rounds down differs by seconds which in reality translates to one or two less casulaties as those one or two ewscape in the reload window , it wont prvent the mass shooting

if someone turns up for a run-n-gun and has his mags in his pockets or rucksack it shows they are amateurs and havent prepared for the attack so it doesnt matter if he is using 5x30 rnd mags or 10 x 15 rnd mags it wont be much of a slaughter if he has to stop shooting to get them out of a backpack every time

some lunatic thinking about doing this is going to prepare, and you can get low profile shooting belts that can hold 10 mags on the belt  for tactial purposes or for competition shooting, so it wont be stopping and getting new mags from a backpack or pocket it will be fast relaods 

sorry but your point is nonsense bob and the stats about accuracy provided by that clip in the beginning show why people need high cap mags, even police miss their targets a lot of the time which is why they have moved to high cap mags

but its emotional gun control so the reality doesnt matter "doing something" is all that matters, some of the states in america with the most restictive gun laws have some of highest crime and murder rates through guns, how does that work??
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Post  Flap Zappa on Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:58 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:You can have a 5 shot mag in the rifle and several others in your pocket, I can drop an empty mag and push another home in 3 or 4 seconds !
3 to 4 seconds for a trained professional on a firing range

For a non-professional demented maniac , in the 'Heat of Battle' (for want of a more suitable phrase), it would probably take a lot longer
you think these people buy a gun and go on a rampage the first day. They shoot at ranges. It is not hard to reload even a lee enfield in a few seconds by pushing a clip of bullets into the mag through the top of the rifle. Dropping a mag and putting in a new one takes no time at all even for a novice

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Post  Flap Zappa on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:13 pm

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Im not an expert in Marine Zoology but I do know that its probably not a good idea to go swimming with Sharks

Likewise just because im not an expert on firearms doesn't mean that I cant cant have a valid, coherent and cogent opinion in relation to whats increasing the carnage in America.


but a lot of people DO go swimming with sharks and say its not a problem.

in fact people who are well versed in all things shark are the ones who are alwasy saying that sharks have a bad reputation because people dont understand them.

thats the thing bob if you arent an expert on fireamrs you really can only have an EMOTIONAL opinion based on an EMOTIONAL response to the shootings.

sorry bob but here comes the nuke, this video destorys your mag size opinion

you will not like this,but watch it id like to hear what you have to say about it

I think Jim May have too many guns. Interesting demo though

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