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Post  bill stickers on Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:50 pm

what r they

scratch
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Post  scottamylola on Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:55 pm

@bill stickers wrote:what r they

scratch

They are shite unless you live in a warm climate country..............or a lobbyist that has good friends in power......
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Post  Hugh Jardon on Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:56 pm

@bill stickers wrote:what r they

scratch

Basically not worth your while unless you are not on the gas grid.
You'd be lucky to get a cop of 4 to1
In very simple terms they work in an opposite way to a fridge.
I'm not on the pc so typing is a pain on the iPod.
Will give you the info soon!
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Post  Hugh Jardon on Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:59 pm

@scottamylola wrote:

They are shite unless you live in a warm climate country..............or a lobbyist that has good friends in power......

Actually they work better in colder climates.
Ok for swimming pools ... Or if you have oversized rads pipe work or under-floor heating
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Post  bill stickers on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:22 pm

@Hugh Jardon wrote:

Basically not worth your while unless you are not on the gas grid.
You'd be lucky to get a cop of 4 to1
In very simple terms they work in an opposite way to a fridge.
I'm not on the pc so typing is a pain on the iPod.
Will give you the info soon!

if u had to run a marketing campaign for one

what would be the key points

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Post  Hugh Jardon on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:28 pm

@bill stickers wrote:

if u had to run a marketing campaign for one

what would be the key points


No co2 .. No co... Servicing outside of the property...no gas.. no oil..
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Post  bill stickers on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:34 pm

@Hugh Jardon wrote:

No co2 .. No co... Servicing outside of the property...no gas.. no oil..

wow cool

no gas

so how do they work

the guy i have to liaise with is a dick head and i cant make sense of what he says

he thinks if he gets technical i will understand when i dont know half the terms he uses

basically i have to get some points together for a ad and marketing campaign for an air source heat pump

i dont know wtf they r except that they r f**king expensive

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Post  Hugh Jardon on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:41 pm

@bill stickers wrote:

wow cool

no gas

so how do they work

the guy i have to liaise with is a dick head and i cant make sense of what he says

he thinks if he gets technical i will understand i dont know half the terms he uses

basically i have to get some points together for a ad and marketing campaign for an air source heat pump

i dont know wtf they r except that they r f**king expensive


My advice is to read your competitions blurb.
Long winded posts on an iPod aren't easy.
In a nutshell they utilise the latent heat in air.
Basically even air at 0c has useable energy.
Hence why a homes pipe work and rad sizes have to be increased to utilise the lower flow temperatures.
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Post  Tess on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:45 pm

@bill stickers wrote:

wow cool

no gas

so how do they work

the guy i have to liaise with is a dick head and i cant make sense of what he says

he thinks if he gets technical i will understand when i dont know half the terms he uses

basically i have to get some points together for a ad and marketing campaign for an air source heat pump

i dont know wtf they r except that they r f**king expensive


http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/Generate-your-own-energy/Air-source-heat-pumps#how
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Post  scottamylola on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:50 pm

@Hugh Jardon wrote:

Actually they work better in colder climates.
Ok for swimming pools ... Or if you have oversized rads pipe work or under-floor heating

Yes they do, but if i can get away with it thats the only scenario i advise them for..........of gas i would go biomass first, cheaper to run and pelletts available from all national merchants........well GSHP really if they have the space......as they will get a constant for a pool............However Hugh CHP is perfect for those scenarios even better if you have a pool ha.....constant temperature means constant kw.....
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Post  bill stickers on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:03 pm

@Hugh Jardon wrote:

My advice is to read your competitions blurb.
Long winded posts on an iPod aren't easy.
In a nutshell they utilise the latent heat in air.
Basically even air at 0c has useable energy.
Hence why a homes pipe work and rad sizes have to be increased to utilise the lower flow temperatures.

thats the thing i work for a marketing company

nobody here has ever heard of them lol!
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Post  Hugh Jardon on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:06 pm

@bill stickers wrote:

thats the thing i work for a marketing company

nobody here has ever heard of them lol!


Pm me... I'll help out... For a reasonable fee.
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Post  bill stickers on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:08 pm

@Hugh Jardon wrote:


Pm me... I'll help out... For a reasonable fee.

will do

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Post  Hugh Jardon on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:13 pm

@scottamylola wrote:

Yes they do, but if i can get away with it thats the only scenario i advise them for..........of gas i would go biomass first, cheaper to run and pelletts available from all national merchants........well GSHP really if they have the space......as they will get a constant for a pool............However Hugh CHP is perfect for those scenarios even better if you have a pool ha.....constant temperature means constant kw.....

Can't argue with much of that...but bio mass is a bloody joke and is far from green.just consider how a tree gets felled... Chopped.. Dried.. Transported... Etc. as you know I'm a massive fan of chp ... Hydraulic interfaces etc. heat pumps have a place but much prefer ground or water source over air.
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Post  scottamylola on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:44 pm

@Hugh Jardon wrote:

Can't argue with much of that...but bio mass is a bloody joke and is far from green.just consider how a tree gets felled... Chopped.. Dried.. Transported... Etc. as you know I'm a massive fan of chp ... Hydraulic interfaces etc. heat pumps have a place but much prefer ground or water source over air.

But in regs biomass is probably the only thing that is actually classed as a carbon neutral heating systyem...(regs not reality).......if off gas then its sound as you don't need to change rads or the heating system (maybe the cylinder) our biomass gives around 62% reduction in SAPS happy days when it comes to regs.........benefit is the merchant will deliver the pellets the same way as the likes of brett oils drops the fuel off......winner if off gas
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Post  Hugh Jardon on Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:13 am

Yep... Of you are off the gas grid then you don't have a lot of choice... I do a fair bit with biomass- at a domestic and commercial level... However I'm still not a fan as such.
Don't get me wrong...I would have one if I was off the grid... and had enough land to produce my own fuel.
SAP can be a 'mare... And the only way to cream it is with a mchp.
There's a lot I could discuss on this- but not on an open forum.
On the subject of efficiencies... The set point on my boiler has not been above 60c all winter...You will know just how efficient that will be.
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Post  Tess on Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:03 am

@Hugh Jardon wrote:

Can't argue with much of that...but bio mass is a bloody joke and is far from green.just consider how a tree gets felled... Chopped.. Dried.. Transported... Etc. as you know I'm a massive fan of chp ... Hydraulic interfaces etc. heat pumps have a place but much prefer ground or water source over air.
About pellets - I'm surrounded by forestry here, and have a couple of acres of my own included in my land. The trees were felled last year, and the wood goes for proper use - the pellets are only made from the stuff that used to be thrown away, the outside of trunks etc. Also I used to get free sawdust from the timber mills but that's used for pellets, so I'm saying trees aren't felled to make pellets. I still don't think they're much cop though - too expensive. I'd prefer this heat pump idea if it was practical.
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Post  tom sawyer on Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:32 pm


I have repaired a few of the pellet machines,and one think i did
notice due to the sap/resin in the pellets if they are not stored properly they can self combust, a bit like haystacks. Rolling Eyes

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Post  Hugh Jardon on Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:24 pm

@tom sawyer wrote:
I have repaired a few of the pellet machines,and one think i did
notice due to the sap/resin in the pellets if they are not stored properly they can self combust, a bit like haystacks. Rolling Eyes


the problem with pellets is that they have to be kept dry.
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Post  bill stickers on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:07 pm

i dont need to worry about this shit now


we lost the contract lol!


in other words

we were more expensive


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Post  Hugh Jardon on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:18 pm

@bill stickers wrote:i dont need to worry about this shit now


we lost the contract lol!


in other words

we were more expensive




whoaah..
more expensive and knew fuk all too....


anyway...perhaps you should go for the lower hanging fruit in future?
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Post  bill stickers on Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:15 pm

@Hugh Jardon wrote:


whoaah..
more expensive and knew fuk all too....


anyway...perhaps you should go for the lower hanging fruit in future?


lol!

i dont set the prices

i just get on with shit when they give me it

i never even heard of this stuff

i even spent all weekend looking thru the stuff tess posted

only to come in today and be told we didnt get it anyway

someone having a laugh i think


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