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Post  Flap Zappa on Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:09 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130277/Ricky-Gervais-new-comedy-Derek-criticised.html#ixzz1sCx2L4dK

what a sanctimonious load of old twaddle.
I have just watched the first episode and found it quietly charming and not played in a spiteful way at all.
Derek is not the butt of jokes but a child like character who see life through different eyes. He sees the good in everyone.
there are not the belly laughs that might have occurred in the office, but there is humour there and it is not spiteful humour. There is a real tenderness and vulnerability in Derek. the funniest bit was when he fell in the garden pond.
Carl Pilkington is also surprisingly good as his best mate and handyman. Although the part was written for him so there is a lot of carl in it.
IT seems that some people see ism's and phobes every where they look and that I suspect says far more about their view of the world than the reality of what actually is.

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Post  gerber on Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:46 pm

Flap Meister wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130277/Ricky-Gervais-new-comedy-Derek-criticised.html#ixzz1sCx2L4dK

what a sanctimonious load of old twaddle.
I have just watched the first episode and found it quietly charming and not played in a spiteful way at all.
Derek is not the butt of jokes but a child like character who see life through different eyes. He sees the good in everyone.
there are not the belly laughs that might have occurred in the office, but there is humour there and it is not spiteful humour. There is a real tenderness and vulnerability in Derek. the funniest bit was when he fell in the garden pond.
Carl Pilkington is also surprisingly good as his best mate and handyman. Although the part was written for him so there is a lot of carl in it.
IT seems that some people see ism's and phobes every where they look and that I suspect says far more about their view of the world than the reality of what actually is.

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Post  Hugh Jardon on Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:54 pm

Flap Meister wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130277/Ricky-Gervais-new-comedy-Derek-criticised.html#ixzz1sCx2L4dK

what a sanctimonious load of old twaddle.
I have just watched the first episode and found it quietly charming and not played in a spiteful way at all.
Derek is not the butt of jokes but a child like character who see life through different eyes. He sees the good in everyone.
there are not the belly laughs that might have occurred in the office, but there is humour there and it is not spiteful humour. There is a real tenderness and vulnerability in Derek. the funniest bit was when he fell in the garden pond.
Carl Pilkington is also surprisingly good as his best mate and handyman. Although the part was written for him so there is a lot of carl in it.
IT seems that some people see ism's and phobes every where they look and that I suspect says far more about their view of the world than the reality of what actually is.


looks like this is just someone who wants to play the victim.....
what?...
another?..
you may cry!
I loved the programme...but I find gervais to be superb anyway!
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Post  Flap Zappa on Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:05 pm

Hugh Jardon wrote:
Flap Meister wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130277/Ricky-Gervais-new-comedy-Derek-criticised.html#ixzz1sCx2L4dK

what a sanctimonious load of old twaddle.
I have just watched the first episode and found it quietly charming and not played in a spiteful way at all.
Derek is not the butt of jokes but a child like character who see life through different eyes. He sees the good in everyone.
there are not the belly laughs that might have occurred in the office, but there is humour there and it is not spiteful humour. There is a real tenderness and vulnerability in Derek. the funniest bit was when he fell in the garden pond.
Carl Pilkington is also surprisingly good as his best mate and handyman. Although the part was written for him so there is a lot of carl in it.
IT seems that some people see ism's and phobes every where they look and that I suspect says far more about their view of the world than the reality of what actually is.


looks like this is just someone who wants to play the victim.....
what?...
another?..
you may cry!
I loved the programme...but I find gervais to be superb anyway!

I thought his acting was very good in this. He certainly makes the character sympathetic and not a parody.

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Post  BigAndy9 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:55 pm

Ricky Gervais was brilliant in this - Pilkington played the same part he always has.

As for the story - wonderful and touching just like the end of the office - he made Derek appear like a very nice character.
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Post  Hugh Jardon on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:21 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:Ricky Gervais was brilliant in this - Pilkington played the same part he always has.

As for the story - wonderful and touching just like the end of the office - he made Derek appear like a very nice character.


which will bnecome more apparent as the programme develops.
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Post  Broken Arrow on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:25 pm

Gervais is an absolute legend imo. I love everything he does but must admit to having not seen Derek yet. I am sure it will be more brilliance from Gervais. He seems to attract this arsey opinions though for everything he does. In my eyes his work actually tend to mock the idiots who ARE uncomfortable about 'differences' in people; this seems lost on certain people and self important journalists who want to tear him down at any opportunity.
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Post  bill stickers on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:26 pm

i never get ppl who complain about tv programs

isnt the easiest thing to switch over and not watch it if u dont like it

or go to the pub and have a pint or 10 or something


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Post  Hugh Jardon on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:37 pm

Eilzel 2.0 wrote:Gervais is an absolute legend imo. I love everything he does but must admit to having not seen Derek yet. I am sure it will be more brilliance from Gervais. He seems to attract this arsey opinions though for everything he does. In my eyes his work actually tend to mock the idiots who ARE uncomfortable about 'differences' in people; this seems lost on certain people and self important journalists who want to tear him down at any opportunity.


10/10.

this poor bloke's got a kid who's autistic....and?
derek hasn't got autism...certainly that I can spot anyway!

gervais does bitter/sweet comedy better than anyone that i can think of today.
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Post  56kevins on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:46 pm

Have to agree I watched it and Derek was portrayed as a very likeable person imo. I didn't see any mockery in the whole programme and thought it was good and will get better as the series progresses.

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Post  Flap Zappa on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:58 pm

Eilzel 2.0 wrote:Gervais is an absolute legend imo. I love everything he does but must admit to having not seen Derek yet. I am sure it will be more brilliance from Gervais. He seems to attract this arsey opinions though for everything he does. In my eyes his work actually tend to mock the idiots who ARE uncomfortable about 'differences' in people; this seems lost on certain people and self important journalists who want to tear him down at any opportunity.

catch it on 4od lez, it is well worth it and far more poignant that your would think from ricky.

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Post  Flap Zappa on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:59 pm

56kevins wrote:Have to agree I watched it and Derek was portrayed as a very likeable person imo. I didn't see any mockery in the whole programme and thought it was good and will get better as the series progresses.
the pond aftermath was laugh out loud funny.

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Post  56kevins on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:02 pm

Flap Meister wrote: the pond aftermath was laugh out loud funny.

I liked the bit where his female mate nutted the woman who was taking the piss in the pub.

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Post  Flap Zappa on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:11 pm

56kevins wrote:
Flap Meister wrote: the pond aftermath was laugh out loud funny.

I liked the bit where his female mate nutted the woman who was taking the piss in the pub.

yes another very funny spot.

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Post  Broken Arrow on Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:46 am

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yes another very funny spot.

That was brilliant, just watched on 4od flap thanks for the pointer Smile

It was very emotional, I was filling up when he went into the old womans room at the end. I suppose it is easy to forget how Ricky actually CAN act amid all the controversy. It wasn''t pure comedy, it was to me a good representation of life. At times funny at times sad. Great show, I'm guessing it is the start of a series?
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Post  Flap Zappa on Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:58 am

Eilzel 2.0 wrote:
Flap Meister wrote:

yes another very funny spot.

That was brilliant, just watched on 4od flap thanks for the pointer Smile

It was very emotional, I was filling up when he went into the old womans room at the end. I suppose it is easy to forget how Ricky actually CAN act amid all the controversy. It wasn''t pure comedy, it was to me a good representation of life. At times funny at times sad. Great show, I'm guessing it is the start of a series?
I think there are probably 6.

it seems from the comments on the article that those who did not watch it were disgusted and those that did enjoyed it or were surprised at how good it was. Gentle and poignant comedy seems the best description although even that does not do it justice.
the bit where joan died was indeed very touching and very well acted by Ricky, who lets face it is not known for being that good.
I also like carl as douggie, although the part was written especially for him and is more or less him. A good first time as an actor for him.


a better review seems to be in the telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/9200872/Ricky-Gervais-in-Derek-Channel-4-Review.html

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Post  Broken Arrow on Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:03 am

Flap Meister wrote:
I think there are probably 6.

it seems from the comments on the article that those who did not watch it were disgusted and those that did enjoyed it or were surprised at how good it was. Gentle and poignant comedy seems the best description although even that does not do it justice.
the bit where joan died was indeed very touching and very well acted by Ricky, who lets face it is not known for being that good.
I also like carl as douggie, although the part was written especially for him and is more or less him. A good first time as an actor for him.


a better review seems to be in the telegraph

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Wow very fair assesment there by the TG. As you can imagine the Guardian was all frowns and tutting Rolling Eyes

I have actually thought Ricky always a fairly decent although VERY limited actor, at least where comedy acting is concerned. Look forward to the rest of the series Smile
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Post  Flap Zappa on Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:02 pm

I thought I would resurrect this old thread to show what twaddle the papers came up with

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Post  Hugh Jardon on Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:20 pm

Flap Gallagher wrote:I thought I would resurrect this old thread to show what twaddle the papers came up with


Yep...

I would imagine that the parent was ashamed for the actions taken which has meant that the offspring is very special.

Perhaps time would be better spent caring for the child and not whining to all and sundry?
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Post  eddie on Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:08 pm

Some people just like fucking moaning.
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Post  Summers on Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:28 pm

If you don't like it then don't watch it.
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Post  Flap Zappa on Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:26 am

eddie wrote:Some people just like fucking moaning.
I remember how indignant some po faced people were when derek was first announced. I am just re watching the first series and some dust manages to get in my eye on nearly every episode.

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Post  Hugh Jardon on Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:18 am

Flap Gallagher wrote:
I remember how indignant some po faced people were when derek was first announced. I am just re watching the first series and some dust manages to get in my eye on nearly every episode.
Well...your better half should use her super vac' more often then....

Oh...the outakes for series 2 are on you tube....the one in the caravan is unreal!
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Post  gelico on Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:13 pm

ricky gervais received thousands of tweets over this apparantly. Mostly very positive with people saying that watching it made them want to be a better person and more tolerant etc. I think it's had a very positive impact on the whole. The whinging twat who was so convinced that gervais is just a nasty piece of work who is taking the piss quite obviously has his own unfortunate issues to deal with
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Post  Flap Zappa on Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:19 am

gelico wrote:ricky gervais received thousands of tweets over this apparantly.  Mostly very positive with people saying that watching it made them want to be a better person and more tolerant etc.   I think it's had a very positive impact on the whole.  The whinging twat who was so convinced that gervais is just a nasty piece of work who is taking the piss quite obviously has his own unfortunate issues to deal with
perhaps he should have watched it.




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