a few questions for the mask freaks creeps and cultists out there

the idea of the muzzle is to protect others not yourself

the theory being that when you cough the mask catches the droplets and prevents transmission

obviously this is nonsense for the following reasons

it is predicated on the idea that every single person in the UK is permanently infected with "covid 19" aka the flu, 24 hours a day 365 days a year and can never not be infected with it, this is sceintifically untrue

the issue with that is if everyone is infected than why wear the muzzle?? there is no such thing as double infected so how can people who have "covid 19" infect each other??

hence the muzzle is pointless

the second problem is this

the muzzle is supposed to stop you infecting others but not protect you from being infected by others.

how does this work?? are these 2 for £5 made in china, bought on ebay masks somehow magical?? are they smart technology masks?? how do they differentiate between an outgoing virus being coughed out by the wearer and an incoming virus hanging in the air??

wouldnt it make more sense that the masks would find it easier to catch suspended or slow moving virus particles rather than stop fast moving cough projected viruses from the wearer??   

the 3rd probelm is this

spain germany and other EU countries have all been wearing masks for ages now, and yet they are experiencing a spike in cases, if the mask are so successful why are they working to stop new cases??

lastly

why are we required to self isolate if we test positive for "covid 19"?? if the mask is there to protect others from being infected by your germs then surely there is no need to isolate if youre positive??

unless  of course the muzzle is nothing to do with combatting "covid 19" but rather the insane power trip of the mad dog emperor johnson who appears to be remaking the UK in the image of this chinese owners

answers on a fag packet

smelly-bandit wrote:the idea of the muzzle is to protect others not yourself

the theory being that when you cough the mask catches the droplets and prevents transmission

obviously this is nonsense for the following reasons

it is predicated on the idea that every single person in the UK is permanently infected with "covid 19" aka the flu, 24 hours a day 365 days a year and can never not be infected with it, this is sceintifically untrue

the issue with that is if everyone is infected than why wear the muzzle?? there is no such thing as double infected so how can people who have "covid 19" infect each other??

hence the muzzle is pointless

the second problem is this

the muzzle is supposed to stop you infecting others but not protect you from being infected by others.

how does this work?? are these 2 for £5 made in china, bought on ebay masks somehow magical?? are they smart technology masks?? how do they differentiate between an outgoing virus being coughed out by the wearer and an incoming virus hanging in the air??

wouldnt it make more sense that the masks would find it easier to catch suspended or slow moving virus particles rather than stop fast moving cough projected viruses from the wearer??   

the 3rd probelm is this

spain germany and other EU countries have all been wearing masks for ages now, and yet they are experiencing a spike in cases, if the mask are so successful why are they working to stop new cases??

lastly

why are we required to self isolate if we test positive for "covid 19"?? if the mask is there to protect others from being infected by your germs then surely there is no need to isolate if youre positive??

unless  of course the muzzle is nothing to do with combatting "covid 19" but rather the insane power trip of the mad dog emperor johnson who appears to be remaking the UK in the image of this chinese owners

answers on a fag packet

it's not about the infected infecting the infected, its about them infecting people who arent infected.
MAsks, of course aren;t 100% effective in stopping the spread, but they can reduce it.
if you can blow out a candle through your mask, it is not a good mask, if you cant it will offer some protection .If you want 100% protection get a years food stockpiled and pull up the drawbridge and dont see a soul.

We will see who was right and wrong by next spring. Lets hope the antimaskers are right, because if they aren't it might be unpleasant.

Flap Zappa wrote:
it's not about the infected infecting the infected, its about them infecting people who arent infected.
MAsks, of course aren;t 100% effective in stopping the spread, but they can reduce it.
if you can blow out a candle through your mask, it is not a good mask, if you cant it will offer some protection .If you want 100% protection get a years food stockpiled and pull up the drawbridge and dont see a soul.

We will see who was right and wrong by next spring. Lets hope the antimaskers are right, because if they aren't it might be unpleasant.

Very true
Come December I suspect a lot of people will go totally mental, office party's, house party's, street party's hitting the pubs clubs etc
Then February will arrive
Either nothing much will happen - virus is gone for good

Or

We will see total carnage

Smells, do you think that the wearing of a seat belt in a car shouldn't be mandatory?

Dean
Is it now possible to both 'like' and 'dislike' the same post?

fatbob5 wrote:

Flap Zappa wrote:
it's not about the infected infecting the infected, its about them infecting people who arent infected.
MAsks, of course aren;t 100% effective in stopping the spread, but they can reduce it.
if you can blow out a candle through your mask, it is not a good mask, if you cant it will offer some protection .If you want 100% protection get a years food stockpiled and pull up the drawbridge and dont see a soul.

We will see who was right and wrong by next spring. Lets hope the antimaskers are right, because if they aren't it might be unpleasant.

Very true
Come December I suspect a lot of people will go totally mental, office party's, house party's, street party's hitting the pubs clubs etc
Then February will arrive
Either nothing much will happen - virus is gone for good

Or

We will see total carnage

it would seem that the virus is mutating and in europe it is more infectious, but less deadly. which for the virus is a far better proposition and not killing the host means it can infect more people.

as to masks

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8636147/Why-masks-work-Coughing-sneezing-without-exposes-people-10-000-TIMES-droplets.html

Flap Zappa wrote:
it would seem that the virus is mutating and in europe it is more infectious, but less deadly. which for the virus is a far better proposition and not killing the host means it can infect more people.

as to masks

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8636147/Why-masks-work-Coughing-sneezing-without-exposes-people-10-000-TIMES-droplets.html

The virus does gain an evolutionary advantage by not killing it's host. The problem is it doesn't gain any evolutionary advantage by changing so that it doesn't cause long term chronic harm. Someone might be completely asymptomatic now but have an increased risk of a stroke in 10 years

fatbob5 wrote:

Flap Zappa wrote:
it would seem that the virus is mutating and in europe it is more infectious, but less deadly. which for the virus is a far better proposition and not killing the host means it can infect more people.

as to masks

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8636147/Why-masks-work-Coughing-sneezing-without-exposes-people-10-000-TIMES-droplets.html

The virus does gain an evolutionary advantage by not killing it's host. The problem is it doesn't gain any evolutionary advantage by changing so that it doesn't cause long term chronic harm. Someone might be completely asymptomatic now but have an increased risk of a stroke in 10 years

it does gain an advantage if it does not debilitate the host, so the host can infect lots of others. A virus that kills everything, does not survive ultimately.

Flap Zappa wrote:
it does gain an advantage if it does not debilitate the host, so the host can infect lots of others. A virus that kills everything, does not survive ultimately.

As a rule of thumb a virus does gain an evolutionary advantage by not killing its host, but I think things are a bit more complicated. From an evolutionary point of view no advantage is gained by not causing issues which only manifest themselves in the future.

Also STDs have existed since humans existed, but they can still cause some quite nasty looking issues. After 100,000 years you would have thought they would all be symptomless by now

Flap Zappa wrote:
it's not about the infected infecting the infected, its about them infecting people who arent infected.
MAsks, of course aren;t 100% effective in stopping the spread, but they can reduce it.
if you can blow out a candle through your mask, it is not a good mask, if you cant it will offer some protection .If you want 100% protection get a years food stockpiled and pull up the drawbridge and dont see a soul.

We will see who was right and wrong by next spring. Lets hope the antimaskers are right, because if they aren't it might be unpleasant.

but who isnt infected??

the premise of the masks is that EVERYONE is infect and therefore EVERYONE has to wear them.

if everyone is assumed to be infected who are they are in danger of infecting??

surely you should only wear a mask if you are showing symptoms or have tested positive.

and masks are even 1% effective

Germany, France, Italy and Spain see their highest number of coronavirus infections in months in biggest sign yet that second wave is hitting the continent

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8646411/Germany-records-highest-number-coronavirus-cases-April.html

all mask wearing countries


masks dont work

period.

as for who is right and who is wrong??

pravda comrade, pravda is always right

Off to do some.beer shopping at aldi, no mask will be worn.

smelly-bandit wrote:Off to do some.beer shopping at aldi, no mask will be worn.

Aldi
A good German company

fatbob5 wrote:
Aldi
A good German company

and they sell great german beer

rheinbacher

oh wait...................yeah  good one bob i got ya

"im a brexit voter therefore i shouldnt be buying european products"

well just goes to show that you didnt really understand the argument about brexit which is probably why you voted remoan

Don't you feel any sense of shame. Smells ?

Showing your naked face in public like some brazen strumpet

Chortle

fatbob5 wrote:Don't you feel any sense of shame. Smells ?

Showing your naked face in public like some brazen strumpet

Chortle

no

i feel embarrased for everyone else wearing their little muzzles like it makes them good people

smelly-bandit wrote:

no

i feel embarrased for everyone else wearing their little muzzles like it makes them good people

Do you get any 'funny looks' ?

fatbob5 wrote:
Do you get any 'funny looks' ?

probably

cant really tell to be honest, everyones face is hidden behind a mask so i cant see their expressions

There's a chance you might be right about masks.
In Wales you are not required to wear them in shops , it doesn't appear to have had a disastrous effect.
You are supposed to wear them on public transport but on the buses it seems as if people are ignoring the mandate.