Muslims in Swimming Baths

Flix wrote:I don't get it, we have conservative  (most of them) moving to the west knowing full well the culture isn't compatible with their religious and cultural life but persist in coming here and complain constantly about just about everything, why bother. It states clearly, for once, that if you are a Muslim living in a non Muslim country you adhere to that countries laws, unless they totally contradict the Muslim way of llife and even then you must do your best to comply, although I suppose that's practically impossible really. There is also a verse which states Muslim can eat the good food of the Jews and Christians but I expect there's another verse to contradict that somewhere later on. You also don't need to dress like a Muslim if its better not to, Muslim dress in the west makes you stand out like a sore thumb and isn't the whole idea not to be particularly noticable and be modest, many people of other faiths and none manage to cover up with modern clothes. The last place I'd want to move to, even if there were well paid jobs, would be Afghanistan or even Pakistan to name but a few.

Flix wrote:I don't get it, we have conservative  (most of them) moving to the west knowing full well the culture isn't compatible with their religious and cultural life but persist in coming here and complain constantly about just about everything, why bother. It states clearly, for once, that if you are a Muslim living in a non Muslim country you adhere to that countries laws, unless they totally contradict the Muslim way of llife and even then you must do your best to comply, although I suppose that's practically impossible really. There is also a verse which states Muslim can eat the good food of the Jews and Christians but I expect there's another verse to contradict that somewhere later on. You also don't need to dress like a Muslim if its better not to, Muslim dress in the west makes you stand out like a sore thumb and isn't the whole idea not to be particularly noticable and be modest, many people of other faiths and none manage to cover up with modern clothes. The last place I'd want to move to, even if there were well paid jobs, would be Afghanistan or even Pakistan to name but a few.

nicko wrote:I'm beginning to wonder whose country this is  !

smelly-bandit wrote:

thats where you are incorrect

islamic philosophy divides the world into two spheres, one sphere is controlled by Muslims and under sharia law and the other is controlled by unbelievers (you and me), their side is ironically called the "house of peace" and ours, is unimaginatively called the "house of war".

Islamic dogma decrees that all Muslims must endeavor for all time to to turn the house of war into the house of peace. they are not coming here and finding it difficult to integrate, they are coming here to turn our house of war into their house of peace, thats why they make the demands they do

you should be careful about who you listen to flix because they have been misleading you

Flix wrote:
Well, yes you are quite right, that is their raison d'etre, even so called moderates want that, even if a few of them and it is a few, don't like the violent way of bringing it about, but the end justifies the means after all. They have some crazy idea that once we are all Muslim peace and loveliness will reign, worked out well in Muslim majority regions so far hasn't it?

Flix wrote:It always amazes me how very religious people seem to be so miserable, the list of things you can't do, for no particular reason it seems, is endless. All their god seems to be is in a very bad mood all the time and has to be constantly appeased by grovelling and praying and while apparently so merciful, is particularly venegful, who wants that for a father?

gelico wrote:


hiya flix

my mother in law is extremely devout (catholic)  she lost both her son (my hubby) and daughter to cancer.  she is 90 or so years old with ulcerated legs and caring for another daughter of about 58 who is unable/unwilling to do anything for herself.

MIL is always at mass or confession or some such.  she knows every saints day and what it means and all.

she is one of the most cheerful active people.  very positive and never gives up.  she tells me she gets incredible comfort from praying and her faith in general.

she's obviously doing it wrong.  

your description sounds like a hideous religion to follow.  there sounds something vaguely familiar about your description though, almost like there IS such a religion.   just cant seem to put my finger on which one though

 

Flix wrote:
Well, yes you are quite right, that is their raison d'etre, even so called moderates want that, even if a few of them and it is a few, don't like the violent way of bringing it about, but the end justifies the means after all. They have some crazy idea that once we are all Muslim peace and loveliness will reign, worked out well in Muslim majority regions so far hasn't it?

gelico wrote:


hiya flix

my mother in law is extremely devout (catholic)  she lost both her son (my hubby) and daughter to cancer.  she is 90 or so years old with ulcerated legs and caring for another daughter of about 58 who is unable/unwilling to do anything for herself.

MIL is always at mass or confession or some such.  she knows every saints day and what it means and all.

she is one of the most cheerful active people.  very positive and never gives up.  she tells me she gets incredible comfort from praying and her faith in general.

she's obviously doing it wrong.  

your description sounds like a hideous religion to follow.  there sounds something vaguely familiar about your description though, almost like there IS such a religion.   just cant seem to put my finger on which one though

 

gelico wrote:


hiya flix

my mother in law is extremely devout (catholic)  she lost both her son (my hubby) and daughter to cancer.  she is 90 or so years old with ulcerated legs and caring for another daughter of about 58 who is unable/unwilling to do anything for herself.

MIL is always at mass or confession or some such.  she knows every saints day and what it means and all.

she is one of the most cheerful active people.  very positive and never gives up.  she tells me she gets incredible comfort from praying and her faith in general.

she's obviously doing it wrong.  

your description sounds like a hideous religion to follow.  there sounds something vaguely familiar about your description though, almost like there IS such a religion.   just cant seem to put my finger on which one though

 

nicko wrote:"control of the masses"    very true Flix.