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Post  smelly-bandit on Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:38 pm

Thousands of Covid deaths 'to be removed after counting blunder'

Thousands of coronavirus deaths are set to be wiped from the government's official count, it was claimed today.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock last month ordered an urgent review into how daily death counts are calculated in England because of a 'statistical flaw'.

Academics found a glitch in Public Health England's methods that meant ministers counted victims as anyone who died after ever testing positive for Covid-19 — even if they were hit by a bus after beating the disease months later.

It would've meant that, technically, no-one could ever recover from the virus and all 265,000 of England's confirmed patients would eventually have had their deaths attributed to the disease.

The blunder could see up to 4,000 deaths removed from England's official toll of 41,749, according to reports. One of the leading experts who uncovered the flaw told MailOnline his 'best guess' was that more than 1,000 people have had their deaths wrongly recorded as caused by Covid-19.

Mr Hancock is set to bring the figures in line with Scotland and Northern Ireland, which only attribute deaths to Covid-19 if it occurs within a month of their diagnosis.

The Health Secretary is expected to announce the new measurement by the end of the week following the two-week review into the counting fiasco.

The statistical flaw was uncovered by Oxford University's Professor Carl Heneghan and Dr Yoon Loke, from the University of East Anglia.

Professor Heneghan, director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at the prestigious university, told the Sun: 'It is a sensible decision. There is no point attributing deaths to Covid 28 days after infection.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8599213/Thousands-Covid-19-deaths-wiped-governments-official-toll-counting-fiasco.html
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Post  Flap Zappa on Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:08 pm

@smelly-bandit wrote:Thousands of Covid deaths 'to be removed after counting blunder'

Thousands of coronavirus deaths are set to be wiped from the government's official count, it was claimed today.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock last month ordered an urgent review into how daily death counts are calculated in England because of a 'statistical flaw'.

Academics found a glitch in Public Health England's methods that meant ministers counted victims as anyone who died after ever testing positive for Covid-19 — even if they were hit by a bus after beating the disease months later.

It would've meant that, technically, no-one could ever recover from the virus and all 265,000 of England's confirmed patients would eventually have had their deaths attributed to the disease.

The blunder could see up to 4,000 deaths removed from England's official toll of 41,749, according to reports. One of the leading experts who uncovered the flaw told MailOnline his 'best guess' was that more than 1,000 people have had their deaths wrongly recorded as caused by Covid-19.

Mr Hancock is set to bring the figures in line with Scotland and Northern Ireland, which only attribute deaths to Covid-19 if it occurs within a month of their diagnosis.

The Health Secretary is expected to announce the new measurement by the end of the week following the two-week review into the counting fiasco.

The statistical flaw was uncovered by Oxford University's Professor Carl Heneghan and Dr Yoon Loke, from the University of East Anglia.

Professor Heneghan, director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at the prestigious university, told the Sun: 'It is a sensible decision. There is no point attributing deaths to Covid 28 days after infection.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8599213/Thousands-Covid-19-deaths-wiped-governments-official-toll-counting-fiasco.html
officially they are talking about 4000 wrong deaths from c19, that figure is probably out by 10000 or more who died from flu and were counted as C19. At the beginning of this year the CDC in the US said that the flu season was going to be extremely severe this year. I am not sure what the figure for flu deaths is but it could account for a reasonable amount of the almost 50000 excess deaths on the 5 year average. There is no denying that all deaths are up by almost 50000 for the year so far compared to the 5 year average. These deaths are the ones that have to be legally recorded within a certain number of days of death.

with a week still to go for july
all deaths are 368777 compared to 319129 for the 5 year average and increase of 49648, and there is still a weeks more deaths to add to that figure

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Post  smelly-bandit on Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:24 pm

@Flap Zappa wrote:
officially they are talking about 4000 wrong deaths from c19, that figure is probably out by 10000 or more who died from flu and were counted as C19. At the beginning of this year the CDC in the US said that the flu season was going to be extremely severe this year. I am not sure what the figure for flu deaths is but it could account for a reasonable amount of the almost 50000 excess deaths on the 5 year average. There is no denying that all deaths are up by almost 50000 for the year so far compared to the 5 year average. These deaths are the ones that have to be legally recorded within a certain number of days of death.

with a week still to go for july
all deaths are 368777 compared to 319129 for the 5 year average and increase of 49648, and there is still a weeks more deaths to add to that figure


officially??

well then its defiinitely accurate as long as its "official"

maybe we should have used the official figures instead of the wild bill shoot from the hip figures that have destroyed our civil liberties, our economy and our entire way of life, but i suppose that  what you get when you elect an ego maniac , and then raise him to the position of rabid mad dog emperor, who rules by decree and edict instead of govern by democratic consent
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Post  smelly-bandit on Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:24 pm

anyway,  didnt i raise this issue on another thread when it al began??
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