police state uk plc

who knew boris was actually jeremy corbyn in disguise??

just remember this bob, when the power goes out and the interent collapses "under the strain of so many people working from home" thats when its time to start heading for the hills, dont wait, at that point is the last time you will have to get away from what comes next

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This is my ' Sort of Wilderness '

I wouldn't last long

I can't believe how fast things have moved, only a week or two ago - it was just --- wash your hands

I won't lie, im shitting myself

fatbob5 wrote:I can't believe how fast things have moved, only a week or two ago - it was just --- wash your hands

I won't lie, im shitting myself

i did warn you bob.

and if you think this is the worst of it, if you think youre shitting yourself now, youre in for a surprise.

and of course you wanted this

fatbob5 wrote:I can't believe how fast things have moved, only a week or two ago - it was just --- wash your hands

I won't lie, im shitting myself

you're youngish and healthy, the only thing going against you is your a man.
I'm over 60, over weight, high BP and a man. I'm not shitting myself. If I get it I may even survive.
But you will all miss me

Smells

Do you still think that the virus is just Super-Flu?
How do you explain the carnage in Italy and Spain?

PS If I was in charge of some nefarious NWO plot and I wanted to convince the ' Sheeple ' of the need for drastic measures then trust me both Tom Hanks and Idris Elba would both be dead by now

Flap Zappa wrote:
you're youngish and healthy, the only thing going against you is your a man.
I'm over 60, over weight, high BP and a man. I'm not shitting myself. If I get it I may even survive.
But you will all miss me

Are you still in the UK at the moment?

fatbob5 wrote:Smells

Do you still think that the virus is just Super-Flu?
How do you explain the carnage in Italy and Spain?

PS If I was in charge of some nefarious NWO plot and I wanted to convince the ' Sheeple ' of the need for drastic measures then trust me both Tom Hanks and Idris Elba would both be dead by now

yes bob i think its a super flu

yes its very infectious and yes its killing people, but people are also surviving on their owns without medical help. that doesnt mean i dont care about getting it because i do and i am self isolating where possible, which is no different for me since i hate people on the best days and try my best to stay away from them.

i do think that there is something to be weary of if only to protect the elderly and the vunerable but not spreadng it around.

however , my main concern is not the virus, that is a known quantity, my concern is that now that lockdown is in force will it ever be lefted completely???

how many restrictions will be lifted and how many left on the books for future use??

for example police can now break up groups bigger than 2, how long after the current siutation is resolved will they still be using that?? for example a group of several men are out and about next year on a stag do and some feminst complains that there is too much toxic masculinity and phones the police

the police turn up and disperse them using dispurtion laws designed to deal exclusively with this crisis but have somehow been left on the books and then used by the police for very different reasons

is that something you think is good??? there has been to much calling for what is in all respects a police state, any other country adopting these measures outside the virus crisis would be condemned

fatbob5 wrote:

Flap Zappa wrote:
you're youngish and healthy, the only thing going against you is your a man.
I'm over 60, over weight, high BP and a man. I'm not shitting myself. If I get it I may even survive.
But you will all miss me

Are you still in the UK at the moment?

trapped is the word, until late april when flights might resume. where to I claim my government money

Brits call 101 to 'snitch on their neighbours': Police warn of being inundated with calls over breaches of Boris Johnson's total coronavirus lockdown

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now where have we seen this before??

smelly-bandit wrote:
yes bob i think its a super flu

yes its very infectious and yes its killing people, but people are also surviving on their owns without medical help. that doesnt mean i dont care about getting it because i do and i am self isolating where possible, which is no different for me since i hate people on the best days and try my best to stay away from them.

i do think that there is something to be weary of if only to protect the elderly and the vunerable but not spreadng it around.

however , my main concern is not the virus, that is a known quantity, my concern is that now that lockdown is in force will it ever be lefted completely???

how many restrictions will be lifted and how many left on the books for future use??

for example police can now break up groups bigger than 2, how long after the current siutation is resolved will they still be using that?? for example a group of several men are out and about next year on a stag do and some feminst complains that there is too much toxic masculinity and phones the police

the police turn up and disperse them using dispurtion laws designed to deal exclusively with this crisis but have somehow been left on the books and then used by the police for very different reasons

is that something you think is good??? there has been to much calling for what is in all respects a police state, any other country adopting these measures outside the virus crisis would be condemned

Smells
It appears as if you are conceding that restrictions are necessary and that the situation is not a big hoax.
Whether or not the police are able to break up a stag group 5 years from now is not probably high on most people's list of concerns at the moment. Stag groups need to behave nowadays anyway. otherwise the amount of Piss Juice Parlours or Lap Dancing Bars they can get into will be much reduced.
Ps the virus is killing young healthy people as well
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im not sure i said it was a hoax bob.

what i said was that im worried that instead of implementing 10 measures that are required to fight the virus, the govt is implementing many more measures that arent required whihc serve only to hand more power to the govt and police forces who then typically go on to use those powers in ways they were never designed to used, to arrest and detain people for activities that under normal conditions are not criminal in nature.

do you trust the govt so much that you are happy to trust them with near unlimited powers for indefinite periods???

for example, the govt has just given police powers to fine/arrest people who refuse a C19 test, do you understand what the next logical step in that will typically be??

yes you guessed it, powers to force people to take a vaccine for C19, after that its anything they to force you to do they can.

i hope it doesnt happen that way and bojo rescinds those powers as soon as the lockdown is lifted, but either way a precedent  is set and open for use and abuse by future govts.


next time lockdown comes along will you be so happy to go along with it if you didnt think the threat justified the lockdown?? well guess what, tough shit the police will make you obey

fatbob5 wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:
yes bob i think its a super flu

yes its very infectious and yes its killing people, but people are also surviving on their owns without medical help. that doesnt mean i dont care about getting it because i do and i am self isolating where possible, which is no different for me since i hate people on the best days and try my best to stay away from them.

i do think that there is something to be weary of if only to protect the elderly and the vunerable but not spreadng it around.

however , my main concern is not the virus, that is a known quantity, my concern is that now that lockdown is in force will it ever be lefted completely???

how many restrictions will be lifted and how many left on the books for future use??

for example police can now break up groups bigger than 2, how long after the current siutation is resolved will they still be using that?? for example a group of several men are out and about next year on a stag do and some feminst complains that there is too much toxic masculinity and phones the police

the police turn up and disperse them using dispurtion laws designed to deal exclusively with this crisis but have somehow been left on the books and then used by the police for very different reasons

is that something you think is good??? there has been to much calling for what is in all respects a police state, any other country adopting these measures outside the virus crisis would be condemned

Smells
It appears as if you are conceding that restrictions are necessary and that the situation is not a big hoax.
Whether or not the police are able to break up a stag group 5 years from now is not probably high on most people's list of concerns at the moment. Stag groups need to behave nowadays anyway. otherwise the amount of Piss Juice Parlours or Lap Dancing Bars they can get into will be much reduced.
Ps the virus is killing young healthy people as well
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to be fair it's not killing young and healthy people. I may have killed one

smelly-bandit wrote:im not sure i said it was a hoax bob.

what i said was that im worried that instead of implementing 10 measures that are required to fight the virus, the govt is implementing many more measures that arent required whihc serve only to hand more power to the govt and police forces who then typically go on to use those powers in ways they were never designed to used, to arrest and detain people for activities that under normal conditions are not criminal in nature.

do you trust the govt so much that you are happy to trust them with near unlimited powers for indefinite periods???

for example, the govt has just given police powers to fine/arrest people who refuse a C19 test, do you understand what the next logical step in that will typically be??

yes you guessed it, powers to force people to take a vaccine for C19, after that its anything they to force you to do they can.

i hope it doesnt happen that way and bojo rescinds those powers as soon as the lockdown is lifted, but either way a precedent  is set and open for use and abuse by future govts.


next time lockdown comes along will you be so happy to go along with it if you didnt think the threat justified the lockdown?? well guess what, tough shit the police will make you obey

there is no reasonable reason to not take c19 test. It is a swab or a pinprick. Neither give you anything.
Yes I hope people are required to have the vaccine when it has been developed and tested if they are in at risk groups to be followed by everyone else eventually. that's how we got rid of polio by making everyone have the vaccine, on a sugar lump if I recall rightly

Flap Zappa wrote:
there is no reasonable reason to not take c19 test. It is a swab or a pinprick. Neither give you anything.
Yes I hope people are required to have the vaccine when it has been developed and tested if they are in at risk groups to be followed by everyone else eventually. that's how we got rid of polio by making everyone have the vaccine, on a sugar lump if I recall rightly

im not opposed to forcing things through for public health, so i dont care about the test or having to take the vaccine, in fact they can go one further while they are at it and force everyone to have the MMR jab.

the issue is moving forward, when the lockdown is lifted will the draconian elements remain in place in a dormant state to be used at will be the cops and future govts??

road blocks and interrogations going up all over the UK, getting close to the end game now

smelly-bandit wrote:road blocks and interrogations going up all over the UK, getting close to the end game now

You make it sound more dramatic than it is.
Ps people shouldn't really be driving for an hour to get to some area of outstanding natural beauty for a bit of a walk

It's harsher in France, you need to fill in a form before you leave the house.
I doubt that would happen in this country

Flap Zappa wrote:
trapped is the word, until late april when flights might resume. where to I claim my government money

Are your family with you?

Ps Dean
Free Government Money is only available for Lefties
;-)

Flap Zappa wrote:
to be fair it's not killing young and healthy people. It may have killed one

It is killing a lot of doctors and nurses.
It appears as if it's not just contact with the virus that matters, but how intense that contact is

fatbob5 wrote:
You make it sound more dramatic than it is.
Ps people shouldn't really be driving for an hour to get to some area of outstanding natural beauty for a bit of a walk

so they should go to the same dog walking spots that everyone else goes to?? whats the difference between walkimg out your house for an hour or driving to a secluded spot, walking for an hour and then driving home??

the difference is you will meet less people when youre in the sticks, which is the whole point isnt it?? to engage less??

heres a fascism test for you bob, whats wrong with this picture bob??

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fatbob5 wrote:

Flap Zappa wrote:
to be fair it's not killing young and healthy people. It may have killed one

It is killing a lot of doctors and nurses.
It appears as if it's not just contact with the virus that matters, but how intense that contact is

it seems when I say it may have killed one, that was not the case. the 21 year old who was claimed to have been killed by corona with no underlying symptoms died from a heart attack and had not even been tested.

smelly-bandit wrote:

fatbob5 wrote:
You make it sound more dramatic than it is.
Ps people shouldn't really be driving for an hour to get to some area of outstanding natural beauty for a bit of a walk

so they should go to the same dog walking spots that everyone else goes to?? whats the difference between walkimg out your house for an hour or driving to a secluded spot, walking for an hour and then driving home??

the difference is you will meet less people when youre in the sticks, which is the whole point isnt it?? to engage less??

heres a fascism test for you bob, whats wrong with this picture bob??

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the problem lies in having an accident on the way there or back and either picking up the virus or being hospitalised in the accident using up a valuable NHS bed.

the next likely outcome if people ignore this is for the gov to ban cars except for essential personnel.

they give us a chance to do the right thing, but some people think it doesn't apply to them, so they have to be more draconian.

On my half hour walk each day I pass a few people out walking but not huge amounts.

Flap Zappa wrote:
the problem lies in having an accident on the way there or back and either picking up the virus or being hospitalised in the accident using up a valuable NHS bed.

the next likely outcome if people ignore this is for the gov to ban cars except for essential personnel.

they give us  a chance to do the right thing, but some people think it doesn't apply to them, so they have to be more draconian.

On my half hour walk each day I pass a few people out walking but not huge amounts.

youre getting into propper nit picking now dean

if having an accident is now a reason to ban people driving then we are into some murky waters, because you could have an accient on the way to do some shopping and youre still taking up a bed.

and what is the right thing to do??

theorically im not allowed to drive to a secluded area to walk the dog so i have to in the local field along with every other fucker in the village, so instead of me having a 1- 5% chance of seeing another person and having a 100% of avoiding them if i do, im now crammed into an area populated with other dog walkers and people doing exercise and he chances of close encounters increases drastically.

what is the right thing dean?? are those four cops doing the right thing?? in a group of 4 so close they can whisper to each other

and before you use your weasel words about what heroes they are and how they have to be out and about, yes they do but is stopping at a beauty spot to watch the waves in a group of 4 huddled together really police work??

is it really the right thing to do??

people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones, and of the police arent practicing what they expect everyone else to do then the reality is that people wont respect their authority.

how long till the first cop gets filled in because they ragged some bloke out on a run??

you dont seem to understand that the more draconian you get the less people respond, all stick and no carrot is either the best way of doing a thing or the most counter productive way of achieving your objectives and in the UK going full NK on the public will have them pushing back ten times as hard especially when those people are doing what they are told. where i live everyone is practicing social distancing , the shops are adopting it, evern out for a run, people are making the effort  push wide when they p

this is collective punishment, good. next time a muslim blows up a kindergarten in the UK we can hammer every muslim in the country, agreed??

and when this is over you better believe that there will be a mountain of complaints and lawsuits against police who have abused their powers, make no mistake.

you want results?? here is how

hammer the fuck out of london, why london? because those fuckers are the biggest rule breakers in the country and a 100% lockdown on london would be warranted, not only because they are the virus engine but because they are gobshites that need their necks wound in for them. use them as an example as to happens when you fuck about

the rest of the country will fall in line pretty soon when they see what happens when you act like london.

I suspect that there is extremely little danger of catching the virus if you walk past someone and there is less than 2 metres between you. The 2 metres rule is probably more for someone you are facing and talking to