police state uk plc

fatbob5 wrote:I suspect that there is extremely little danger of catching the virus if you walk past someone and there is less than 2 metres between you. The 2 metres rule is probably more for someone you are facing and talking to

smelly-bandit wrote:

Flap Zappa wrote:
there is no reasonable reason to not take c19 test. It is a swab or a pinprick. Neither give you anything.
Yes I hope people are required to have the vaccine when it has been developed and tested if they are in at risk groups to be followed by everyone else eventually. that's how we got rid of polio by making everyone have the vaccine, on a sugar lump if I recall rightly

im not opposed to forcing things through for public health, so i dont care about the test or having to take the vaccine, in fact they can go one further while they are at it and force everyone to have the MMR jab.

the issue is moving forward, when the lockdown is lifted will the draconian elements remain in place in a dormant state to be used at will be the cops and future govts??

fatbob5 wrote:

Flap Zappa wrote:
trapped is the word, until late april when flights might resume. where to I claim my government money

Are your family with you?

Ps Dean
Free Government Money is only available for Lefties
;-)

smelly-bandit wrote:

Flap Zappa wrote:
the problem lies in having an accident on the way there or back and either picking up the virus or being hospitalised in the accident using up a valuable NHS bed.

the next likely outcome if people ignore this is for the gov to ban cars except for essential personnel.

they give us  a chance to do the right thing, but some people think it doesn't apply to them, so they have to be more draconian.

On my half hour walk each day I pass a few people out walking but not huge amounts.

youre getting into propper nit picking now dean

if having an accident is now a reason to ban people driving then we are into some murky waters, because you could have an accient on the way to do some shopping and youre still taking up a bed.

and what is the right thing to do??

theorically im not allowed to drive to a secluded area to walk the dog so i have to in the local field along with every other fucker in the village, so instead of me having a 1- 5% chance of seeing another person and having a 100% of avoiding them if i do, im now crammed into an area populated with other dog walkers and people doing exercise and he chances of close encounters increases drastically.

what is the right thing dean?? are those four cops doing the right thing?? in a group of 4 so close they can whisper to each other

and before you use your weasel words about what heroes they are and how they have to be out and about, yes they do but is stopping at a beauty spot to watch the waves in a group of 4 huddled together really police work??

is it really the right thing to do??

people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones, and of the police arent practicing what they expect everyone else to do then the reality is that people wont respect their authority.

how long till the first cop gets filled in because they ragged some bloke out on a run??

you dont seem to understand that the more draconian you get the less people respond, all stick and no carrot is either the best way of doing a thing or the most counter productive way of achieving your objectives and in the UK going full NK on the public will have them pushing back ten times as hard especially when those people are doing what they are told. where i live everyone is practicing social distancing , the shops are adopting it, evern out for a run, people are making the effort  push wide when they p

this is collective punishment, good. next time a muslim blows up a kindergarten in the UK we can hammer every muslim in the country, agreed??

and when this is over you better believe that there will be a mountain of complaints and lawsuits against police who have abused their powers, make no mistake.

you want results?? here is how

hammer the fuck out of london, why london? because those fuckers are the biggest rule breakers in the country and a 100% lockdown on london would be warranted, not only because they are the virus engine but because they are gobshites that need their necks wound in for them. use them as an example as to happens when you fuck about

the rest of the country will fall in line pretty soon when they see what happens when you act like london.

smelly-bandit wrote:oh dear

looks like the real agenda is emerging

war with china

dean, mark and record this post.

war with china is the reason for c19 being allowed to spread.

smelly-bandit wrote:


im not opposed to forcing things through for public health, so i dont care about the test or having to take the vaccine, in fact they can go one further while they are at it and force everyone to have the MMR jab.

the issue is moving forward, when the lockdown is lifted will the draconian elements remain in place in a dormant state to be used at will be the cops and future govts??

fatbob5 wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:


im not opposed to forcing things through for public health, so i dont care about the test or having to take the vaccine, in fact they can go one further while they are at it and force everyone to have the MMR jab.

the issue is moving forward, when the lockdown is lifted will the draconian elements remain in place in a dormant state to be used at will be the cops and future govts??

I'm really , really uneasy with the idea of any government being able to force people to take a vaccine.
In this respect, believe it not, I have more in common with the average extreme libertarian American militia member than you do Smells

fatbob5 wrote:
I'm really , really uneasy with the idea of any government being able to force people to take a vaccine.
In this respect, believe it not, I have more in common with the average extreme libertarian American militia member than you do Smells

smelly-bandit wrote:

but youre happy with the govt being able to force people under house arrest and to fine people for actions that are not criminal in nature??

hhhmmmmmmm

Flap Zappa wrote:
it is the ones that havent taken the vaccine that have been the cause of the recurrence of measles and other long gone illnesses

fatbob5 wrote:

Flap Zappa wrote:
it is the ones that havent taken the vaccine that have been the cause of the recurrence of measles and other long gone illnesses

You don't need 100% of a population to take a vaccine for it to be successful, just a sizeable majority.

Ps. I'm not saying that having the right to eschew a vaccine should be consequence free
No Covid19 vaccine ---- no passport or driving licence

fatbob5 wrote:
A massive difference between being required to stay indoors as much as possible and being forced to invest a chemical

Ps vaccines can have side effects

Shocking moment police threaten man with pepper spray and arrest him for running errands for his mother - before warning bystanders 'you'll be next'

smelly-bandit wrote:everyone loving it???

loving the lockdown bob??? you gonna love the police state that we emerge into???

smelly-bandit wrote:is it just me or is anyone else getting a bit fed up with all these paid actors???

fatbob5 wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:


im not opposed to forcing things through for public health, so i dont care about the test or having to take the vaccine, in fact they can go one further while they are at it and force everyone to have the MMR jab.

the issue is moving forward, when the lockdown is lifted will the draconian elements remain in place in a dormant state to be used at will be the cops and future govts??

I'm really , really uneasy with the idea of any government being able to force people to take a vaccine.
In this respect, believe it not, I have more in common with the average extreme libertarian American militia member than you do Smells

smelly-bandit wrote:everyone loving it???

loving the lockdown bob??? you gonna love the police state that we emerge into???

fatbob5 wrote:
Just you Smells

Flap Zappa wrote:
as long as it is not anything to do with bill gates you should be fine