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Post  wyatt1 Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:17 am

A chilly Arctic summer has left nearly a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 60 per cent.
The rebound from 2012’s record low comes six years after the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013.
Instead, days before the annual autumn re-freeze is due to begin, an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia’s northern shores.


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Post  mattiducatti Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:23 am

More inconvenient truth which shows the global warming/climate change theories are rubbish.
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Post  tom sawyer Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:31 am

We ll new it was a con to screw people

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Post  mattiducatti Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:19 pm

Australias new pm is talking about abolishing carbon taxes and stopping asylum seekers on boats arriving by forcing them to turn around and sail back.


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Post  nicko Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:20 pm

the do-gooders wont like that.
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Post  tom sawyer Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:23 pm

nicko wrote:the do-gooders wont like that.
prob Cameron should take a leaf out his book, and yes they are up in arms but who gives a shit what they think, we have tried it their way and look at the shit we are in
good luck to Australia, i wish our pm had the same backbone

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Post  mattiducatti Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:38 pm

Bollocks to the wishw washy ldo gooders, they should be more concerned about doing good for their own fellow citizens first.


Their good nature is just being exploited by opportunist scum bags and they are too stupid to realise it, or too blinded by their do gooding attitude.
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Post  tom sawyer Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:48 pm

mattiducatti wrote:Bollocks to the wishw washy ldo gooders, they should be more concerned about doing good for their own fellow citizens first.


Their good nature is just being exploited by opportunist scum bags and they are too stupid to realise it, or too blinded by their do gooding attitude.
prob the latter

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Post  Durham Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:06 pm

mattiducatti wrote:Australias new pm is talking about abolishing carbon taxes and stopping asylum seekers on boats arriving by forcing them to turn around and sail back.


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Might be an attractive place to consider living....
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Post  tom sawyer Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:26 pm

Durham wrote:Might be an attractive place to consider living....
if i was younger i would be gone

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Post  mattiducatti Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:37 pm

Was thinking about it a little while ago, but just landed a new job that is looking good so staying put for a while at least.
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Post  jadeloue Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:56 pm

now we have global cooling what's the chance of getting a huge tax rebate from the goverment
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Post  Flap Zappa Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:04 am

if you ignore the science that is paid for by the church of climateology you will see that the world goes in periods of warming and cooling. The sun is heading for a cooling phase at the moment and is likely to be so for the next 200 years.
the amount of CO2 emitted by mankind is a fraction of the greenhouse gasses emitted by nature. You could shut mankinds CO2 down entirely and go back to living in caves of berry's and nuts and it would have bugger all effect on the worlds climate.
That big yellow ball in the sky is was causes the world to heat up and cool down. Nothing we can do here will change that or affect it.
The poeple that scream loudest about global warming all have a vested interest in self perpetuating the money train that global warming creates for them. It is a very inconvenient truth that all this global warming nonsense has made Al gore a billionaire and that is as crooked as a hockey stick.
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Post  jadeloue Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:00 pm

earth goes in cycles sometime it hot sometimes its cold and we live with it the goverments have latched on to it and found another way to tax us and   put us down and wtf is it with wind farms they are so ugly
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Post  Flap Zappa Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:08 pm

jadeloue wrote:earth goes in cycles sometime it hot sometimes its cold and we live with it the goverments have latched on to it and found another way to tax us and   put us down and wtf is it with wind farms they are so ugly
wind farms are fine as a supplement, but they never will be a primary power source. However they need so much subsidy to be viable that it is not worth the effort
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Post  Flix Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:27 pm

We've ended up with loads of the things and they are huge, at certain times in the afternoon or early evening this summer, sitting in the garden is impossible, its not much fun indoors either because when the sun is behind them the strobe effect is awful, and I doubt there's anything that can be done, except go in and close the curtains/blinds which is a shame because we don't get that much sun, although perhaps that now an advantage for once.

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Post  Flap Zappa Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:39 pm

Flix wrote:We've ended up with loads of the things and they are huge, at certain times in the afternoon or early evening this summer, sitting in the garden is impossible, its not much fun indoors either because when the sun is behind them the strobe effect is awful, and I doubt there's anything that can be done, except go in and close the curtains/blinds which is a shame because we don't get that much sun, although perhaps that now an advantage for once.
what many people do not realise is that the bigger ones, whilst looking like they are moving slowly have a tip speed of over 100mph, which is why they are so good at chopping birds up. they also kill more birds of prey as they come to eat up the other dead birds and themselves get chopped up.
wind farms in california may end up being responsible for wiping out the californian condor in the next few years.
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Post  wyatt1 Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:13 pm

Flap Gallagher wrote:what many people do not realise is that the bigger ones, whilst looking like they are moving slowly have a tip speed of over 100mph, which is why they are so good at chopping birds up. they also kill more birds of prey as they come to eat up the other dead birds and themselves get chopped up.
wind farms in california may end up being responsible for wiping out the californian condor in the next few years.
Surely using tidal currents would make more sense,  2 tides every 24 hrs.  eternally.

2 high tides and 2 low tides in just over 24 hrs.


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Post  Flap Zappa Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:33 pm

wyatt1 wrote:
Flap Gallagher wrote:what many people do not realise is that the bigger ones, whilst looking like they are moving slowly have a tip speed of over 100mph, which is why they are so good at chopping birds up. they also kill more birds of prey as they come to eat up the other dead birds and themselves get chopped up.
wind farms in california may end up being responsible for wiping out the californian condor in the next few years.
Surely using tidal currents would make more sense,  2 tides every 24 hrs.  eternally.

2 high tides and 2 low tides in just over 24 hrs.
should be good for part of the day but then there are times when it is not generating at all when the tides are turning, that is not good in terms of power generation and tide times are not consistent, they change throughout the year so sometimes they will be generating when the power is needed and at others times they may well be generating when it isn't.
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Post  wyatt1 Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:42 pm

Flap Gallagher wrote:should be good for part of the day but then there are times when it is not generating at all when the tides are turning, that is not good in terms of power generation and tide times are not consistent, they change throughout the year so sometimes they will be generating when the power is needed and at others times they may well be generating when it isn't.
Rivers and hydro power would help, but  having to flood some areas would not be popular though.   Nuclear it is then.
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Post  Flix Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:21 pm

Well, I don't know, flooding some areas and leaving certain people in them may be quite welcome to some people.

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Post  wyatt1 Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:57 pm

Flix wrote:Well, I don't know, flooding some areas and leaving certain people in them may be quite welcome to some people.
I didn't think of that benefit  Suspect Twisted Evil
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Post  Flap Zappa Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:18 pm

wyatt1 wrote:
Flap Gallagher wrote:should be good for part of the day but then there are times when it is not generating at all when the tides are turning, that is not good in terms of power generation and tide times are not consistent, they change throughout the year so sometimes they will be generating when the power is needed and at others times they may well be generating when it isn't.
Rivers and hydro power would help, but  having to flood some areas would not be popular though.   Nuclear it is then.
hydro is of course feasible but that requires large lakes to power the turbines. There is quite a lot of hydro in scotland where the landscape suits the process.

Nuclear is of course the most reliable system as long as you do not build in an earthquake or tsunami area.
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