so i just found out that face mask do prevent second waves

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Where next? France and Germany could be next on the quarantine list as Dominic Raab throws holidays into doubt - warning there is no 'guarantee' new restrictions will not be put in place like those on Spain

Dominic Raab warned that more summer holidays abroad could be ruined today as he said he could not guarantee more countries would not be slapped with quarantine rules.

He spoke out after holidaymakers already in Spain were told they would now have to spend 14 days in isolation on their return after air bridge rules were reversed overnight.

The change was made because of a spike in cases in the popular holiday destination, and it will raise fears that other countries could follow suite.

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I pick my fights and masks are just not worth whining about

not in turkey, no.

thing is the Uk has a tradition of freedom not draconianism, the turks do as told because the turkish police will probably execute them on the street if they dont have a mask on. the same is true of most of the EU which all seem to have some sort of romantic flirting with dictatorships and as such are used to doing as told without thinking.

also , the mask thing is not a medical method to control  the virus is a stalinist method to control the populace, it has nothing to do with our well being and everything to do with demoralising , humiliating and dehumanising us, breaking us down and seeing how far and how fast they can strip our freedoms from us

so you see dean, i also pick my fights and this is a fight worth fighting

it 's not a fight worth wasting time on. the only losers are you when you end up locked down again. The government ask people to wear mask and it gets ignored so they require them to wear masks by law. All these laws are because people wont follow advice.

"I know my rights" is the most divisive thing Blair brought in during his time in office

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it 's not a fight worth wasting time on. the only losers are you when you end up locked down again. The government ask people to wear mask and it gets ignored so they require them to wear masks by law. All these laws are because people wont follow advice.

"I know my rights" is the most divisive thing Blair brought in during his time in office

ive never been out of lockdown dean

mask wearing social distancing means that for all intents and purposes , everything is still shut for me, my local pub has a list of rules that fill one of those black chalk boards they use, why would i jump through 12 different hoops just to buy over priced fox piss beer and be treated like a plague carrying criminal??

why would i go back to the high street?? £2 for fuel, £4 for parking and then masks social distancing and plague carrying criminal. i can get most things delivered to my house for less than £6 delivery charge so why would i bother??

i havent been anywhere apart from home and work since the 23rd of march, the only shops i will go into are for food shopping and then i just flash them my "im exempt" card and carry on as normal

so you see dean, i wont give two hoots about another lockdown since i never techincally left lockdown

and if you think lockdowns are about the virus then you are more gullible than i first thought, lockdowns are a stalinist control measure, we are now threatend  with a "second wave" next summer it will be a 3rd wave and then a 4th wave next winter and a 5th  and a 6th and a 7th and an 8th after that, lockdowns are here to stay, its  a means to cause catastrophioc damage to the economy and force everyone into poverty and ultimately into endentured servitude

boris johnosn doesnt like the idea that the peasants can afford to get on a plane  and go on holiday,an actvity  that he  believes  should be reserved  for the ruling  class  like him and his mates.

and if mask  are so successful then why does the virus even exist??  china wear masks all the time

spain and germany have been wearing them for ages and both are getting their "second waves"

"because smelly bandit idiots like you wont wear the masks and spread the virus which you have 24/7 365"