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american government adopts sharia law
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http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2012/03/us-department-of-defense-unveils-new.html
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2012/03/us-department-of-defense-unveils-new.html
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boomboomafridi wrote:
And do the believers of that book still live by it and drag people out and stone them, no of course they do not, does Islam still demand the death of non believers or apostates yes.
Now can you see a difference in Islam.
Your statement was
"But only Islam tells it's followers to do so, that is the biggest difference."
Which I have shown to be patently incorrect.
followers of these religions have been known to, I think didge already mentioned the LRA. Baruch Goldstein seemed to follow it to the letter too.
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boomboomafridi wrote:
And do the believers of that book still live by it and drag people out and stone them, no of course they do not, does Islam still demand the death of non believers or apostates yes.
Now can you see a difference in Islam.
How many muslims drag people out and stone them?
See you just defeated your own argument, because I do not see millions of muslims going out daily killing non-muslims, what I do see is sectarian violence in some muslim countries and some extremists commiting attrocities, but what I do not see is loads of muslims practicing out verses you claim are meant to instruct them to kill.
Well done for showing yourself up with your own answer!
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Smelly_bandit wrote:
Point proven king
You raise the culpability of other religions to make Islam look better
You know as well as I do that Christians no longer stone people to death nor do they act upon the other commands to kill
If the number and frequency of Christians killing because of the bible was equal to that of the Muslims killing because of the qur'an then you would have a point but we both know that is not the case and yet you act like it is
And that's exactly why I find you so disingenuous
they use the same arguements and tactics and both claim to be atheists but I am quite sure it is purely coincidence.
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Smelly_bandit wrote:
Point proven king
You raise the culpability of other religions to make Islam look better
You know as well as I do that Christians no longer stone people to death nor do they act upon the other commands to kill
If the number and frequency of Christians killing because of the bible was equal to that of the Muslims killing because of the qur'an then you would have a point but we both know that is not the case and yet you act like it is
And that's exactly why I find you so disingenuous
Smelly, see my response to Boomboom. The point is ALL religions do tell people to kill, some follow it some don't.
I am not trying to make any religion look better, they all are as bad as each other. The reason you feel the way you do is that I am showing that your religion has the same traits that you hate in Islam.
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boomboomafridi wrote:
they use the same arguements and tactics and both claim to be atheists but I am quite sure it is purely coincidence.
Actually i think we both try not to laugh at the stupidity of some postrers, when they use lame arguments that do not fit!
Religion in various forms has always been used as a green light to commit violence, that means some do, it does not mean many do or all of them, what you are other like minded simpletons do is paint all with the same brush, which shows up the ignorance of your posts.
Keep going though am enjoying contradict yourself, as above!
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boomboomafridi wrote:
they use the same arguements and tactics and both claim to be atheists but I am quite sure it is purely coincidence.
I've jut worked out why you are obsessed with paranoia
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there is a great deal of documented evidence of paranoia being contagious.
though if the mistrust is based on any evidence then perhaps paranoia does not apply merely observation of the facts.
though if the mistrust is based on any evidence then perhaps paranoia does not apply merely observation of the facts.
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I'm the king wrote:
Smelly, see my response to Boomboom. The point is ALL religions do tell people to kill, some follow it some don't.
I am not trying to make any religion look better, they all are as bad as each other. The reason you feel the way you do is that I am showing that your religion has the same traits that you hate in Islam.
still the same old same old they do it to arguement but you constantly miss the point that Islam is still making the same mistakes and still killing and condoning the killing.
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boomboomafridi wrote:
still the same old same old they do it to arguement but you constantly miss the point that Islam is still making the same mistakes and still killing and condoning the killing.
Some muslims are, as are some christians and some jews. your point being?
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I'm the king wrote:
Some muslims are, as are some christians and some jews. your point being?
Point probably being - some more than others. Much much more.
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I'm the king wrote:
Some muslims are, as are some christians and some jews. your point being?
Again you miss the point, only Islam is still telling people to kill but I know you know that but will not admit it.
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boomboomafridi wrote:
Again you miss the point, only Islam is still telling people to kill but I know you know that but will not admit it.
But you admitted earlier that the books of Christianity and Judaism also tell followers to kill non believers and it was only muslims that listened.
Do you even know what your point is?
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Tess wrote:
Point probably being - some more than others. Much much more.
Yeah but you have to ask why, if all the books say similar things and all the books instruct people to kill, can the problem be the instructions or is there some other issue that we are ignoring, possibly a social issue?
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I'm the king wrote:
But you admitted earlier that the books of Christianity and Judaism also tell followers to kill non believers and it was only muslims that listened.
Do you even know what your point is?
I admitted nothing you merely stated it as fact a fact that is incorrect as the bible no longer asks anyone to kill anyone but the quran on the other hand still demands that the believer must kill the non believers and the apostates.
Now can you see the difference and my point.
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I'm the king wrote:
Smelly, see my response to Boomboom. The point is ALL religions do tell people to kill, some follow it some don't.
I am not trying to make any religion look better, they all are as bad as each other. The reason you feel the way you do is that I am showing that your religion has the same traits that you hate in Islam.
what a crock of shit
please spare my your motorway services rest room psychology
its obvioulsy pointless speaking to you since your ignorant in the extreme
judging form what you say your views are this
1 Christian killing in the name of religion is worse than 100 Muslims doing the same
say what you want king it is obvious to me from where im standing that you're nothing more than an apologist for islam
you divert attention away from anything bad surrounding Islam with the bad stuff form other religions all of which are taken out of context and or no longer applied to the letter.
you seem to think that there was thousands of Christian terrorist groups doing the same as the muslim ones and are fabricating a like for like comparison
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I'm the king wrote:
Some muslims are, as are some christians and some jews. your point being?
so now its terrorist groups top trumps is it??
ok lest play
your "lords resistance army" VS my hamas
my AL-Q vs your...............................???
that was a quick game
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Smelly_bandit wrote:
what a crock of shit
please spare my your motorway services rest room psychology
its obvioulsy pointless speaking to you since your ignorant in the extreme
judging form what you say your views are this
1 Christian killing in the name of religion is worse than 100 Muslims doing the same
say what you want king it is obvious to me from where im standing that you're nothing more than an apologist for islam
you divert attention away from anything bad surrounding Islam with the bad stuff form other religions all of which are taken out of context and or no longer applied to the letter.
you seem to think that there was thousands of Christian terrorist groups doing the same as the muslim ones and are fabricating a like for like comparison
excellent post.
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Didge wrote:
It is not guilt but what i see in how you react and it does speak volumes. I already said about some muslims persecuting minorities, which you ignored and made a come back saying exactly what i already stated, what does that tell me?
Will let you think about that one, second point, I asked you if you knew any muslims, you never answered, then made a statement as if all muslims were asking for a cross to be taken down in a Catholic univeristy? Were you witness to this, or was this something you read?
Do you think only christians are persecuted? Are no muslims or Jews persecuted in the west, do you stand up for them when they are persecuted also?
Moral high ground!
Before I carry on, i think I have a much better picture, but will wait for your answers.
OMG, not the old "speaks volumes" ploy? I don't think I have ever tried to hide my opinions so no need to be laying traps to see my reaction. You want to know something, ask, it will save a lot of time reading volumes.
Please list incidents where Muslims are persecuted in the West? As for Jews being persecuted yes, I will concede that they are, generally by Muslims.
Didge where did I say ALL Muslims asked for the crucifix to be removed from a Catholic University? I said the ones who chose to attend the Uni made the demand. They also demanded private prayer rooms and foot baths. Let me repeat, they made these demands at a private Catholic University. Let me ask you, why would a Muslim choose to attend a Catholic University in the first place and then make these demands?
I can think of only one reason, they are attempting to push their agenda and their religion on other religions.
What about public swimming pools where Muslim demand Muslim only swimming time? How is that fair to the public at large? Can you imagine a Christian demanding such a thing in a Muslim country?
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Mystic Moon wrote:
OMG, not the old "speaks volumes" ploy? I don't think I have ever tried to hide my opinions so no need to be laying traps to see my reaction. You want to know something, ask, it will save a lot of time reading volumes.
Please list incidents where Muslims are persecuted in the West? As for Jews being persecuted yes, I will concede that they are, generally by Muslims.
Didge where did I say ALL Muslims asked for the crucifix to be removed from a Catholic University? I said the ones who chose to attend the Uni made the demand. They also demanded private prayer rooms and foot baths. Let me repeat, they made these demands at a private Catholic University. Let me ask you, why would a Muslim choose to attend a Catholic University in the first place and then make these demands?
I can think of only one reason, they are attempting to push their agenda and their religion on other religions.
What about public swimming pools where Muslim demand Muslim only swimming time? How is that fair to the public at large? Can you imagine a Christian demanding such a thing in a Muslim country?
It is the way Islam works it demands yet gives nothing.
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Mystic Moon wrote:
OMG, not the old "speaks volumes" ploy? I don't think I have ever tried to hide my opinions so no need to be laying traps to see my reaction. You want to know something, ask, it will save a lot of time reading volumes.
Please list incidents where Muslims are persecuted in the West? As for Jews being persecuted yes, I will concede that they are, generally by Muslims.
Really, cite please that it is mainly muslims that persecute jews? In fact it is mainly the far right that persecute jews in Europe, and in Europe there has been a dramatic rsie in hate crimes against Muslims. Can add endless lists if you so wish?
Didge where did I say ALL Muslims asked for the crucifix to be removed from a Catholic University? I said the ones who chose to attend the Uni made the demand. They also demanded private prayer rooms and foot baths. Let me repeat, they made these demands at a private Catholic University. Let me ask you, why would a Muslim choose to attend a Catholic University in the first place and then make these demands?
You are either gullible here or telling Porky Pies, which is it? Did they make any demands? No, after the University refused to allow the muslims to form a student group, even though Jews had been allowed to, this complaint was put forward to the Human Rights commison, and whilst investugating also found out that there was not a room for Muslims to pray in, as they all had crucifixs in them, even a spokesman said no complaint was made demnding any to be taken down:
A spokesman for Catholic University released a statement to Fox News indicating they had not seen any legal filings — but would respond once they do.
“Our faithfulness to our Catholic tradition has also made us a welcome home to students of other religions,” said Victor Nakas, associate vice president for public affairs. “No students have registered complaints about the exercise of their religions on our campus.”
And who made the complaint:
The complaint was filed by John Banzhaf, an attorney and professor at George Washington University Law School.
This same university was involed in another investigation in regards to muslims women being discriminated against. If they make allowances for other faiths, why do they deny the muslims? Sorry that is discrimination on all levels.
I can think of only one reason, they are attempting to push their agenda and their religion on other religions.
No, they are asking for the same rights as offered to other faiths in the same University, unless you think all other faiths should be accommodated and then deny one group, what do you call that? Sorry very poor example and another case i see often, twisting the facts.
What about public swimming pools where Muslim demand Muslim only swimming time? How is that fair to the public at large? Can you imagine a Christian demanding such a thing in a Muslim country?
Really, we have them pay for women only Swimming, which any faith and athiest women can attend, which the is not a demand, as the people who run the Pools, have accommodated, nobody has forced the Pools to do this. So again another example that is poorly argued, unless you can prove the people running them were forced to make women only swimming sessions? No didn't think so, this is just blatant xenophobia, unless you think it is wrong for a group of people to have the same rights as others? This is like the Halah argument, it is not muslims demanding but Supermarkets out to make money by putting on their counters. A swimming pool, knows it gets revenue, from people who book the pool, just as you and i can book a private session, so how is that any different.
Also do you put yourself Christian first and American second?
Off out, until the next time, hope you have a good evening!
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Smelly_bandit wrote:
what a crock of shit
please spare my your motorway services rest room psychology
its obvioulsy pointless speaking to you since your ignorant in the extreme
judging form what you say your views are this
1 Christian killing in the name of religion is worse than 100 Muslims doing the same
say what you want king it is obvious to me from where im standing that you're nothing more than an apologist for islam
you divert attention away from anything bad surrounding Islam with the bad stuff form other religions all of which are taken out of context and or no longer applied to the letter.
you seem to think that there was thousands of Christian terrorist groups doing the same as the muslim ones and are fabricating a like for like comparison
Crock of shit or are you turning a blind eye?
Lets see:
Klu Klux klan
The Canadian Freedomites
The National Liberation Front of Tripura
Lebanese Christian Phalangists
The Orange Volunteers
Hutaree
Army of God
Christian Identity
Christian Patriot
Lambs of Christ
The Covenant, The Sword and the Arm of God
Montana Freedom
Lord's Resistance Army
Just some off the top of my head, so there may well be far more terrorist attacks from islamic terrorists, but then there is more areas where there is conflict which has helped create them, but it seems you ignore the fact that no matter the faith you will always find extremists, they are all wrong and need eradicating.
Schooled!
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Didge wrote:
Crock of shit or are you turning a blind eye?
Lets see:
Klu Klux klan
The Canadian Freedomites
The National Liberation Front of Tripura
Lebanese Christian Phalangists
The Orange Volunteers
Hutaree
Army of God
Christian Identity
Christian Patriot
Lambs of Christ
The Covenant, The Sword and the Arm of God
Montana Freedom
Lord's Resistance Army
Just some off the top of my head, so there may well be far more terrorist attacks from islamic terrorists, but then there is more areas where there is conflict which has helped create them, but it seems you ignore the fact that no matter the faith you will always find extremists, they are all wrong and need eradicating.
Schooled!
thats fucking (Language Timothy) hilarious dodge
you should do some research dodge instead of just offering up this shite
Klu Klux klan
racist not religious
The Canadian Freedomites
political not religious
The National Liberation Front of Tripura
nationalist organizationt not religious
Lebanese Christian Phalangists
officially a secular political paramilitary organization not religious
The Orange Volunteers
this one is religious but its sectarian
Hutaree
religious preparing for the apocalyptic battle against the anti christ (not sure why you included this one, maybe you were desperate)
Army of God
anti abortion group not religious
Christian Identity
a groups of religious nutters not terrorist
Christian Patriot
conspiracy theory nut jobs not religious terrorist
Lambs of Christ
officially a non violent anti abortion movement not a religious terror group
The Covenant, The Sword and the Arm of God
racist group not religious terrorists
Montana Freedom
now youre just making stuff up
Lord's Resistance Army
IRIN
comments that "the LRA remains one of the least understood rebel
movements in the world, and its ideology, as far as it has one, is
difficult to understand."
you have posted up some real gems of horse shit in the past dodge but i do believe that the above is well up there along with other such chestnuts as
"islam has nothing to do with islamic terrorism"
"Jews Christians and Muslims are treated better in Muslims countries than in the west"
and now
"the KKK is on the same level as AL-Q"
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Smelly_bandit wrote:
thats fucking (Language Timothy) hilarious dodge
you should do some research dodge instead of just offering up this shite
Klu Klux klan
racist not religious
The KKK believes itself to be a Christian organization, carrying out ‘God’s work’.
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Religious Extremism and U.S. Politics: Often an Ominous Pairing | NowPublic News Coveragehttp://www.nowpublic.com/world/religious-extremism-and-u-s-politics-often-ominous-pairing#ixzz1ons5mAF0
The Canadian Freedomites
political not religious
Wrong Christian
http://www.doukhobor.org/Soukeroff.htm
The National Liberation Front of Tripura
Wrong again
http://internetisinamerica.blogspot.com/2012/03/up-close-look-at-christian-terrorism.html
Lebanese Christian Phalangists
officially a secular political paramilitary organization not religious
religious I am afraid
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/lebanon/lb_appnb.html
The Orange Volunteers
this one is religious but its sectarian
Hutaree
religious preparing for the apocalyptic battle against the anti christ (not sure why you included this one, maybe you were desperate)
because it is christian ha ha ha
Army of God
anti abortion group not religious
And Christian and classed as terrorist
Christian Identity
a groups of religious nutters not terrorist
And Christian and classed as terrorist
Christian Patriot
conspiracy theory nut jobs not religious terrorist
And Christian and classed as terrorist
Lambs of Christ
officially a non violent anti abortion movement not a religious terror group
And Christian and classed as terrorist
The Covenant, The Sword and the Arm of God
racist group not religious terrorists
And Christian and classed as terrorist
Montana Freedom
now youre just making stuff up
Lord's Resistance Army
IRIN
comments that "the LRA remains one of the least understood rebel
movements in the world, and its ideology, as far as it has one, is
difficult to understand."
you have posted up some real gems of horse shit in the past dodge but i do believe that the above is well up there along with other such chestnuts as
"islam has nothing to do with islamic terrorism"
"Jews Christians and Muslims are treated better in Muslims countries than in the west"
and now
"the KKK is on the same level as AL-Q"
So once again you are in denial little bot, go play with your trains, ha ha
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do some research dodge
all the organizations have a high % of Christian members
their modus operandi however is not religiously inspired terrorism
for you to suggest that those groups are on the level of AL-Q which is a religiously inspired terror network is well.............typical stupidity from a completely ignorant bufoon
all the organizations have a high % of Christian members
their modus operandi however is not religiously inspired terrorism
for you to suggest that those groups are on the level of AL-Q which is a religiously inspired terror network is well.............typical stupidity from a completely ignorant bufoon
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Smelly_bandit wrote:do some research dodge
all the organizations have a high % of Christian members
their modus operandi however is not religiously inspired terrorism
for you to suggest that those groups are on the level of AL-Q which is a religiously inspired terror network is well.............typical stupidity from a completely ignorant bufoon
I have researched and have caught with your pants down here, can you just see the mistkae you have just done?
Anyway do you think attacking people over abortion is not religious inspired, hang on:
Idiot, firct class, you get honours in that department, here is an expert of christian terrorism and their cause:
This ideological use of crucifixion asserts that God requires violence to save the world. If people believe that God uses torture and murder, what is to stop them from doing the same or believing that experiencing the same sanctifies them? If the state terrorism tactic of crucifixion has to be the gateway to salvation, it keeps Christians obsessed with keeping people divided into the saved and the damned and the righteous and the sinful, which in the mind of Christian terrorists, translates into white Christians vs. dark-skinned infidels.
You make me laugh, all terrorism is wrong, whether it is inspired from what ever faith, it will always be wrong, but you are ignoring others, are you claiming the Lords resistance army is not inspired by faith?
Once again you need an education Security Guard!
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